Spain 16/17 Jun - Last round

[igor5]

Spain Primera Liga

Jun 17 17:00 Athletic Bilbao v Levante 1.33 5.25 8.50
Jun 17 17:00 Celta Vigo v Getafe 1.40 4.75 6.50
Jun 17 17:00 Espanyol v D Coruna 1.80 3.50 4.20
Jun 17 17:00 Racing Santander v Real Betis 3.40 3.50 2.00
Jun 17 17:00 Valencia v Real Sociedad 2.15 3.50 3.10
Jun 17 21:00 Gimnastic v Barcelona 13.00 7.00 1.16
Jun 17 21:00 Huelva v Real Zaragoza 3.25 3.00 2.30
Jun 17 21:00 Osasuna v Atletico Madrid 3.20 3.50 2.10
Jun 17 21:00 Real Madrid v Mallorca 1.12 9.00 17.00
Jun 17 21:00 Sevilla v Villarreal 1.85 3.60 3.80

Spain Segunda

Jun 16 17:30 Castellon v Malaga 1.95 3.10 3.60
Jun 16 18:30 Albacete v Lorca 1.70 3.25 4.75
Jun 16 18:30 Almeria v Vecindario 1.44 3.75 7.00
Jun 16 18:30 Cadiz v Real Madrid B 1.85 3.10 4.00
Jun 16 18:30 CD Alaves v Ponferradina 1.70 3.25 4.50
Jun 16 18:30 Hercules v Elche 2.10 3.00 3.30
Jun 16 18:30 Las Palmas v Poli Ejido 1.85 2.90 4.20
Jun 16 18:30 Murcia v Tenerife 1.60 3.30 5.25
Jun 16 18:30 Salamanca v Ciudad de Murcia 2.25 2.87 3.10
Jun 16 18:30 Sporting Gijon v Xerez 1.95 2.90 3.80
Jun 16 20:30 Numancia v Valladolid 2.50 2.87 2.75

Spain Segunda B Play-offs

Jun 16 21:00 Rayo Vallecano v Eibar 1.72 3.40 4.33
Jun 17 18:00 R Ferrol v Alicante 1.83 3.40 3.80
Jun 17 18:30 Burgos v Sevilla Atletico 1.72 3.40 4.33
Jun 17 20:00 Córdoba v Huesca 1.61 3.60 4.75

Bet365

[rcgills]

Absolutely ridiculous prices there on Madrid and Barcelona. Both of them should win, but could this league yet have one final twist?

Two that I'm certainly interested in at first glance are Osasuna to beat Atletico Madrid, and a lay of Sevilla against Villarreal. Osasuna's season is finished, but that's been the case for a few weeks now, and look at the way they tore Betis apart at the weekend. As for Sevilla, I think they realise they had their big chance last weekend when Madrid and Barcelona both slipped up, and they blew it. Villarreal in superb form, 7 wins in a row, and not yet guaranteed their UEFA Cup place.

[igor5]

H2H stats................

Gimnastic-Barca: 0-1-2

1949-50 GIMNASTIC 1 - 4 BARCELONA
1948-49 GIMNASTIC 2 - 2 BARCELONA
1947-48 GIMNASTIC 1 - 2 BARCELONA

Real Madrid-Mallorca: 15-3-3

2005-06 REAL MADRID 4 - 0 MALLORCA
2004-05 REAL MADRID 3 - 1 MALLORCA
2003-04 REAL MADRID 2 - 3 MALLORCA
2002-03 REAL MADRID 1 - 5 MALLORCA
2001-02 REAL MADRID 0 - 0 MALLORCA
2000-01 REAL MADRID 0 - 2 MALLORCA
1999-00 REAL MADRID 2 - 1 MALLORCA
1998-99 REAL MADRID 2 - 1 MALLORCA
1997-98 REAL MADRID 2 - 0 MALLORCA
1991-92 REAL MADRID 2 - 0 MALLORCA
1990-91 REAL MADRID 3 - 0 MALLORCA
1989-90 REAL MADRID 1 - 1 MALLORCA
1987-88 REAL MADRID 3 - 1 MALLORCA
1986-87 REAL MADRID 3 - 0 MALLORCA
1986-87 REAL MADRID 3 - 0 MALLORCA
1983-84 REAL MADRID 2 - 0 MALLORCA
1969-70 REAL MADRID 1 - 1 MALLORCA
1965-66 REAL MADRID 5 - 1 MALLORCA
1962-63 REAL MADRID 5 - 2 MALLORCA
1961-62 REAL MADRID 2 - 0 MALLORCA
1960-61 REAL MADRID 3 - 0 MALLORCA

[GaNgStA kEeKs]

Originally Posted by rcgills

Absolutely ridiculous prices there on Madrid and Barcelona. Both of them should win, but could this league yet have one final twist?

Two that I'm certainly interested in at first glance are Osasuna to beat Atletico Madrid, and a lay of Sevilla against Villarreal. Osasuna's season is finished, but that's been the case for a few weeks now, and look at the way they tore Betis apart at the weekend. As for Sevilla, I think they realise they had their big chance last weekend when Madrid and Barcelona both slipped up, and they blew it. Villarreal in superb form, 7 wins in a row, and not yet guaranteed their UEFA Cup place.

Im with you here laying the 3 of them RC. It was felt weekend just gone that they were all too short and it paid dividends so lets hope for more of the same this weekend

[rcgills]

Originally Posted by igor5

Real Madrid-Mallorca: 15-3-3

Interesting though that the last 6 are 3-1-2 in favour of Mallorca

And for those that haven't seen the Spanish thread in the Worldwide chat forum, Marca have today alleged that Mallorca are on a 600,000€ bonus from Barcelona if they get a draw or win against Madrid.

[lurieroy]

thanks mate!
it's realy interesting.....
i think sosiadad is a very good bet. they must win their game while valencia finished their season.
also betis should not lose againt santander.
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do you have ideas about the secunda? is any team gonna rest some players for sure?

[rcgills]

Originally Posted by Kiko

Im with you here laying the 3 of them RC. It was felt weekend just gone that they were all too short and it paid dividends so lets hope for more of the same this weekend

Thing is though, Kiko, last weekend I didn't lay Madrid and Barcelona purely because I felt they were too short, I laid them both because I genuinely believed there was a very good chance they'd slip up, as they both had tough games. I'm not sure I do believe that this weekend though - the only team I genuinely believe may well slip up is Sevilla. Although that H2H of Madrid's v Mallorca in recent years has set me thinking.

And something else I'll be looking to find out is whether Nastic's striker Portillo is actually their player, or whether he's on loan from Madrid. Would be an interesting storyline there, with a long-time Madrid player (and possibly still a Madrid player) if he could get a goal against Barcelona that seals the title for Madrid.

[rcgills]

Originally Posted by lurieroy

thanks mate!
it's realy interesting.....
i think sosiadad is a very good bet. they must win their game while valencia finished their season.
also betis should not lose againt santander.

Dangerous way of thinking there, Lurieroy. Valencia may have finished their season, but so have Racing, and Sociedad couldn't beat them at home. As for Betis, they were absolutely terrible against an Osasuna side supposedly with nothing to play for. I personally wouldn't go near them next weekend.

Also, on a kind of related point, Racing's keeper saved a penalty against Sociedad last weekend and promptly went mad, as if he'd just saved the decisive penalty in a cup final shootout. Whether he has something personal against Sociedad or against the player that missed, or whether he's just taking the end of season very seriously I don't know, but it was a very strange reaction bearing in mind the game meant nothing really to Racing.

Originally Posted by lurieroy

do you have ideas about the secunda? is any team gonna rest some players for sure?

Give us a chance, it's only Monday

Bearing in mind everything is already decided in this league, I think I'll probably be leaving it well alone.

[lurieroy]

thanks rcgills!
another quition for you if you don't mind!
can huelva achive somthing this season? if not what doyou think about zaragoza?

[rcgills]

Zaragoza are far too short a price for my liking, and in any case, a draw will be enough for them, as they're better off in the H2H against Atletico Madrid, and they're also better off on the H2H in the event of a 3-way tie between Zaragoza, Villarreal and Atletico Madrid.

[bandaide]

Originally Posted by rcgills

Interesting though that the last 6 are 3-1-2 in favour of Mallorca

And for those that haven't seen the Spanish thread in the Worldwide chat forum, Marca have today alleged that Mallorca are on a 600,000€ bonus from Barcelona if they get a draw or win against Madrid.

Mallorca has good relations with Barce, both being from The Catalans, Barce's former River Plate striker Maxi Lopez is currently on loan there.

Real team news:
- Helguera is suspeded
- Diarra who has been instrumental in Real's second half success is on international duty with Mali
- Beckham experiencing ankle pains again, Torres possible torn liganebts: Real Madrid C.F. Web Oficial - Real Madrid C.F. Official Web Site

Mallorca's has never been afraid of playing in hostile enviornments, their away record against Top 10 teams in La Liga is a respectable 2-2-5, handed Sevilla their only home lose, and kept many others close (only once trailing at HT):
Recreativo Huelva 1 - 1 Mallorca
FC Sevilla 1 - 2 Mallorca
Atletico Madrid 1 - 1 Mallorca
Real Zaragoza 2 - 0 Mallorca (HT 0:0)
Getafe 1 - 0 Mallorca (HT 0:0)
Valencia 3 - 1 Mallorca (HT 1:0)
Villarreal 2 - 1 Mallorca (HT 1:1)
Barcelona 1 - 0 Mallorca (HT 0:0) Own goal in 2nd half injury time
Racing Santender 0 - 2 Mallorca

[bandaide]

Originally Posted by bandaide

Real team news:
- Helguera is suspeded
- Diarra who has been instrumental in Real's second half success is on international duty with Mali
- Beckham experiencing ankle pains again, Torres possible torn liganebts: Real Madrid C.F. Web Oficial - Real Madrid C.F. Official Web Site

Robinho and Marcelo has been called back to Brazil for Copa America Camp, the Real is trying to ask the CBF for permission to allow Robinho to play on Sunday. Sevilla's Daniel Alves has already announced that he intend to join the NT this week.
El Real Madrid negociará para que Robinho no se pierda la última jornada - Marca.com

[Densa85]

I think it is very good to lay Real Madrid on Sunday!

Taragona are friends of Barca and i can´t see a win of Gimnastic in this match!But Real Mallorca showed on Saturday that they can play as good as Sevilla so i think its a good chocie to lay Real

[bandaide]

Originally Posted by Densa85

I think it is very good to lay Real Madrid on Sunday!

Taragona are friends of Barca and i can´t see a win of Gimnastic in this match!But Real Mallorca showed on Saturday that they can play as good as Sevilla so i think its a good chocie to lay Real

Even when Real wins, they have a tendancy of getting the winning goal late, so you'll get much more value backing them in live betting during the 2nd half for sure. This season at home against poor teams like Gimnastica and Sociedad, they couldn't break through till the second half, the cast of the Gimnastica game, playing with 1 man up since the 5th minute of 1st half:

26/5/2007 Real 2:1 Deportivo - Winner 58'
12/5/2007 Real 4:3 Espanyol - Winner 89'
06/5/2007 Real 3:2 Sevilla - Winner 81' (Sevilla Red Card in 73')
21/4/2007 Real 2:1 Valencia - Winner 73'
18/3/2007 Real 2:0 Gimnastica - Winner 56' (Gimnastica Red Card in 5')
03/12/2006 Real 2:1 Bilbao - Winner 81' (Bilbao Red Card in 74')
17/9/2006 Real 2:0 Sociedad - Winner 69' (Sociedad Red Card in 73')

Only 4 of their 11 home wins have saw them taking the lead in the 1st half and keeping it.

[rcgills]

Originally Posted by rcgills

And for those that haven't seen the Spanish thread in the Worldwide chat forum, Marca have today alleged that Mallorca are on a 600,000€ bonus from Barcelona if they get a draw or win against Madrid.

Marca are now claiming the bonus offer has risen to 3 million euros

And Valencia were yesterday confronted by a group of their ultras shouting insults at them during their training session, they don't seem very happy with recent performances.