Altitude

[Quandram]

Well this was much more of a pain in the arse than I wanted it to be and some of the values are a little... fuzzy. But it gives an idea.

Team		Home Stadium Altitude
Algeria		3
Argentina		36 / 102
Australia		Various - not much
Brazil		600
Cameroon		2382
Chile		1706
Denmark		0
England		0
France		0
Germany		70
Ghana		200
Greece		600
Honduras		272
Italy		Various - not much
Ivory Coast		0
Japan		Various - not much
Mexico		7400
Netherlands		It's Holland FFS
New Zealand		300
Nigeria		1570
North Korea		89
Paraguay		141
Portugal		Various - not much
Serbia		384
Slovakia		700
Slovenia		978
South Africa
South Korea		Various
Spain		49/2000
Switzerland		1000
Uruguay		144
USA		Various - 400 - 4000

			Altitude
South Africa	vs	Mexico	5750
Uruguay	vs	France	0
Argentina	vs	Nigeria	5750
South Korea	vs	Greece	0
England	vs	USA	4920
Algeria	vs	Slovenia	4300
Germany	vs	Australia	0
Serbia	vs	Ghana	3980
Netherlands	vs	Denmark	5750
Japan	vs	Cameroon	4600
Italy	vs	Paraguay	0
New Zealand	vs	Slovakia	4920
Ivory Coast	vs	Portugal	0
Brazil	vs	North Korea	5750
Honduras	vs	Chile	2165
Spain	vs	Switzerland	0
South Africa	vs	Uruguay	3980
France	vs	Mexico	4300
Greece	vs	Nigeria	4600
Argentina	vs	South Korea	5750
Germany	vs	Serbia	0
Slovenia	vs	USA	5750
England	vs	Algeria	0
Ghana	vs	Australia	4920
Netherlands	vs	Japan	0
Cameroon	vs	Denmark	3980
Slovakia	vs	Paraguay	4600
Italy	vs	New Zealand	2165
Brazil	vs	Ivory Coast	5750
Portugal	vs	North Korea	0
Chile	vs	Switzerland	0
Spain	vs	Honduras	5750
Mexico	vs	Uruguay	4920
France	vs	South Africa	4600
Nigeria	vs	South Korea	0
Greece	vs	Argentina	4300
Slovenia	vs	England	0
USA	vs	Algeria	3980
Ghana	vs	Germany	5750
Australia	vs	Serbia	2165
Slovakia	vs	Italy	5750
Paraguay	vs	New Zealand	4300
Denmark	vs	Japan	4920
Cameroon	vs	Netherlands	0
Portugal	vs	Brazil	0
North Korea	vs	Ivory Coast	2165
Chile	vs	Spain	3980
Switzerland	vs	Honduras	4600

Looks shit too

[ONEDUNME]

Mmmm, I haven't given quite that much thought to the altitude but I was thinking about it more from a Total Goals viewpoint rather than match advantage. I'm backing lots of goals.

Plus points are the new ball and the fact that balls fly faster and harder (and therefore possibly further off target) than at sea level.

Minus points are that players are more likely to tire and the game might be slower than I would like it to be in order to create chances at end to end.

[ONEDUNME]

I've no wish to hog your thread Quandram but apropos the above, Sporting Index offer a market on how many shots end up going straight out for goal kicks. It's a market I've bought in the past and made some money -especially the first time they did it as it was hopelessly underestimated. This one doesn't tempt me with the market at 705-720 in the 64 games you would need over 11 per game to make a profit.

Too high

Actually I think Ill just start a spread betting thread.

[trickrick]

Slightly confused still, but would I be right in saying Nigeria have a serious altitude advantage over the Argies?

[Quandram]

That's the problem Trick, at what point does it become significant?

Yes Nigeria appear to be used to higher altitude than the Argies but then it's not a third of the altitude they will be playing at. Plus Argies will have some experience of Chile and Peru etc... but then the Argies only managed a draw with Peru and lost to Chile. Was that altitude or the utter shambles that they were?

Hog away ODM... i've no idea where if anywhere this is going.

[ONEDUNME]

You need to be careful on taking stuff like this on face value. Brazil may well have played their qualifiers at that altitude - all qualifiers should be played at the same venue in a country as decreed by FIFA but Brazil have twisted that rule in the past and have played in a number of venues at differing altitudes in qualifiers in previous years - coincidenlty, ones that least suited their opponents. What I'm trying to say is that they are used to playing at varying altitudes.

On one occasion they actually cited the fact that they couldn't play a certain game in their usual stadium because of the threat of industrial action causing a power cut in the ground. The game was played in the afternoon.

Cheating bastards