Bookmakers - Tennis Betting - The Good, the bad and the ugly

[Wittmann 44]

Thought it might be worthwhile to put a sticky up regarding bookmakers and tennis specifically. I know there is a general bookmakers forum but as tennis is a bit of a niche sport betting wise outside the Grand Slams and Masters a number of the bookmakers are poor enough in terms of markets put up, their prices and the times they put them up. There are also a number of bookmakers who are far out in front of the competition when it comes to tennis betting.

I’d also like to add generally that the more accounts you have the better even if it is to take advantage of a single standout price. Also as anyone reading this is unlikely to bet just on tennis it pays to have as many accounts as humanely possible.

If you would like to add your own experiences and anything with those I have not covered please do. Please be aware that this is for bookmakers and tennis betting specifically as opposed to general comments about bookmakers.

Finally if there is an account that you are interested in please use the affiliate link with the Daily Punt if you decide to open an account with them.

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Bookmakers - Essential Accounts

Stan James

If you are serious about betting on tennis this is in my view an essential account to have. They price up almost all events and are usually first with their prices. If you see an early price on the exchange it will generally reflect a Stan James price. Prices are competitive in terms of bookmakers and customer service is good.

Pinnacle

Pinnacle’s over rounds are the smallest of any books reflected by the fact that they are often quoted to 4 decimals points. Prices are generally the best of any bookmaker for tennis. I’d rank them slightly below Stan James as for some reason they do not always put up prices for every game and their prices tend to go up after Stan James.

Bookmakers - Other Good Accounts

Ladbrokes, Hills, Paddy Power, Bet 365, Interwetten, Boylesports

I would tend to rank all these together when it comes to tennis betting. They do what they need to but their over rounds are poor when compared to Pinnacle or even Stan James. I don’t generally bet multiples when betting on tennis but when I do I find it is handy to have these accounts as between them you can usually add a bit extra to your price by shopping around amongst them. If you bet on the outright markets there can be significant variation in prices and again this is where these accounts are very useful. Much better obviously to get an 80/1 each way selection rather than a 60/1 shout by virtue of a bit of shopping around.

Exchanges – The Essential

Betfair

Betfair in my view really comes into its own in two horse races like tennis. I would go so far as to say you will not make money betting on tennis without an account with Betfair. Prices are as close to the bone as it gets especially when betting odds against. Liquidity is never a concern except on the very smallest events. Set betting prices are also the best you will get anywhere. Backing a player to win 2-1 on Betfair will usually get a price between 4.2 and 4.8. You will be very lucky to get 7/2 with a bookmaker.

Exchanges – The Possibles

WBX (World Betting Exchange)

I opened an account with these guys a few months ago. Major plus here is the 3% commission as opposed to the 5% on Betfair. Liquidity is a fraction of Betfairs but prices are competitive and I’ve made a few bets with them. I would fear that they would go the way of Betdaq and start with a 3% commission rate before heading up towards 5% after getting a client bases in. Have not had to deal with customer service yet and have not withdrawn any funds. Hopefully will develop over time into a viable alternative to Betfair but the history of the failed competitors to Betfair isn’t good.

[ONEDUNME]

Good stuff Witmann. I don't take as much notice of the old tennis betting as I should do as when I've taken tips off this site I've won more than I've
lost.

I'm trying to remember why I don't have a Pinnacle account

[engineer]

Yeah, in general, you can find the best odds for tennis in Betfair. I'm digging to find better ones, but I have success for few games only, mainly at Pinnacle.
10bet and Sportingodds are good, too.

[bulit]

I choose this thread to ask you something guys.

Why you love to bet on big odds in tennis and finding suprices?
Everybody have own betting system but for me best is few low odds and bigger stake. It's not football where neither do I don't love low odds but tennis is sport for them.I'm just interesting for that. I mean when you can find odds around @2.60- @3.00 in tennis. It's happened one time in 4 monts maybe and you must hit her in that moment.

[Wittmann 44]

Everybody have own betting system but for me best is few low odds and bigger stake.

It depends on what works for you. I rarely bet below 1.40 on singles although I do use doubles with low odds.

I like betting odds against > evens. I had a 12/1 (against Gasquet) and a 9/1 (against Petrova) winner during the French Open betting against players I felt were injured which is something I try to look out for. If you make a profit it doesn't matter if you are betting short odds, long odds or a mixture of the two.

[bulit]

Sorry for ask.
But after that you had many odds which you didn't hit and that was cut your profit at the end.Am i right?
On the other side all players who was in first 8 ranked reach to the 1/4 finals and first 4 in ATP list were in semis. Betting on them I made very nice profit.
OK I understand everyone and this was just question. It's doesn't matter anyway.
Good luck with all your bets Wittmann I still like doubles with low odds

[rcgills]

Well going purely on yesterday's matches, Bulit, Peya (1.25), Lee (1.46) and Johannsson (1.38) all lost. Then there the likes of Soderling (1.08) and Blake (1.10) who lost the first set before coming back to win, but which would've given a nice opportunity to lay them back after the first set to ensure a profit.

There are always quite a few surprise results around, it's just a question of finding them.

And on a separate note, if you're backing heavy favourites, I hope for your sake that you use a bookie that voids bets if a player retires injured?

[rcgills]

And another list of the short-priced losers yesterday:

Gasquet 1.05
Nalbandian 1.06
Castano 1.37
Henman 1.22

If you manage to make profit from backing short-priced players then fair enough, but it only needs one loser at a price like Gasquet or Nalbandian to undo a lot of previous hard work.

[Peter Orchard]

This list is a couple of years old and might need updating but this is the work of Frankie P , who puts a lot of tennis work in at oddsnet.com and for that he has kudos..

Bookie Tennis Rules
RESULT STANDS AFTER ONE BALL:
Betandwin, Betdaq, Betdirect, Betoddoreven, Betonbet, BlueSquare, Eurobet, Expect, GGbet, Globet, Interwetten, Ladbrokes, Parbet, Playit, Sportingoptions, Totebetexpress.

RESULTS STANDS AFTER ONE SET:
Betfair, Skybet, Sportingbet, Sportingodds, Stan James, Unibet.

MATCH MUST BE COMPLETED:
Admiralbet, Bet365, Betinternet, Canbet, Capitalsports, Cashpoint, Centrebet, Gamebookers, Nordicbet, Olympic, Paddy Power, Pinnacle, Stanleybet, Totalbet, Ukbetting, Victor Chandler, Vikingbet, Wetten-Schwchat, William Hill.

[ezmoney]

Why does Betfair seem to have a stranglehold? Is it just because of the volume? The interface? As many have pointed out, it's certainly not the commission structure. I can name several that do better - pinnacle, wbx, betliner, betdaq....and the list goes on.

[kompressaur]

Hello and welcome ezmoney. I think their discussing this a bit more here
http://thedailypunt.com/forum/genera...ds-got-me.html

[Minoto13]

Originally Posted by ONEDUNME

Good stuff Witmann. I don't take as much notice of the old tennis betting as I should do as when I've taken tips off this site I've won more than I've
lost.

I'm trying to remember why I don't have a Pinnacle account

They are good in my opinion. I don't like bet365 though. They're pathetic for winners :D

[pokerfaKe]

Originally Posted by Wittmann 44

Thought it might be worthwhile to put a sticky up regarding bookmakers and tennis specifically. I know there is a general bookmakers forum but as tennis is a bit of a niche sport betting wise outside the Grand Slams and Masters a number of the bookmakers are poor enough in terms of markets put up, their prices and the times they put them up. There are also a number of bookmakers who are far out in front of the competition when it comes to tennis betting.

I’d also like to add generally that the more accounts you have the better even if it is to take advantage of a single standout price. Also as anyone reading this is unlikely to bet just on tennis it pays to have as many accounts as humanely possible.

If you would like to add your own experiences and anything with those I have not covered please do. Please be aware that this is for bookmakers and tennis betting specifically as opposed to general comments about bookmakers.

Finally if there is an account that you are interested in please use the affiliate link with the Daily Punt if you decide to open an account with them.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Bookmakers - Essential Accounts

Stan James

If you are serious about betting on tennis this is in my view an essential account to have. They price up almost all events and are usually first with their prices. If you see an early price on the exchange it will generally reflect a Stan James price. Prices are competitive in terms of bookmakers and customer service is good.

Pinnacle

Pinnacle’s over rounds are the smallest of any books reflected by the fact that they are often quoted to 4 decimals points. Prices are generally the best of any bookmaker for tennis. I’d rank them slightly below Stan James as for some reason they do not always put up prices for every game and their prices tend to go up after Stan James.

Bookmakers - Other Good Accounts

Ladbrokes, Hills, Paddy Power, Bet 365, Interwetten, Boylesports

I would tend to rank all these together when it comes to tennis betting. They do what they need to but their over rounds are poor when compared to Pinnacle or even Stan James. I don’t generally bet multiples when betting on tennis but when I do I find it is handy to have these accounts as between them you can usually add a bit extra to your price by shopping around amongst them. If you bet on the outright markets there can be significant variation in prices and again this is where these accounts are very useful. Much better obviously to get an 80/1 each way selection rather than a 60/1 shout by virtue of a bit of shopping around.

Exchanges – The Essential

Betfair

Betfair in my view really comes into its own in two horse races like tennis. I would go so far as to say you will not make money betting on tennis without an account with Betfair. Prices are as close to the bone as it gets especially when betting odds against. Liquidity is never a concern except on the very smallest events. Set betting prices are also the best you will get anywhere. Backing a player to win 2-1 on Betfair will usually get a price between 4.2 and 4.8. You will be very lucky to get 7/2 with a bookmaker.

Exchanges – The Possibles

WBX (World Betting Exchange)

I opened an account with these guys a few months ago. Major plus here is the 3% commission as opposed to the 5% on Betfair. Liquidity is a fraction of Betfairs but prices are competitive and I’ve made a few bets with them. I would fear that they would go the way of Betdaq and start with a 3% commission rate before heading up towards 5% after getting a client bases in. Have not had to deal with customer service yet and have not withdrawn any funds. Hopefully will develop over time into a viable alternative to Betfair but the history of the failed competitors to Betfair isn’t good.

Nice job, Wittmann. I am planning to make my first bet at the Roland Garros, and I think your reviews about the bookmakers will be very useful. So, the one you strongest reccomend is Stan James, right? . I don't want to make a fortune of it, I would only like ( for the beginning) to gain a symbolic amount of money. And, of course, once I made a bet, a would surely watch the tennis match with a potentially grown attention and excitement. fficeffice" />DOCUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\msohtml1\01\cli p_image001.gif">

[engineer]

Minoto, pay attention that Wittmann's post is dated more than 3 years back, so some of the things may not be the same

[mord]

I´m trying a small treble today

Gasquet
Verdasco
Gil

all of them should be too much for their opponents and I saw Klizan (Gils opponent) and he was just awful, 10 double faults, etc.