New Premiership Relegation System

[ONEDUNME]

No, there isn't one but I think there should be.

Teams have been relegated in previous seasons having amassed more than a point a game. This season there is a particular piss poor bunch of teams lowering the standards.

How we can seriously consider the prem to be the cream of football when teams like Middlesborough are halfway up it is a complete joke to me.

Anyway, how about a new rule that any team not getting more than 38 points in a season should be relegated as they obviously don't belong there. They should fuck off and give some other teams a chance.

If the season ended yesterday, that would mean eight teams going down. It would also mean that no play offs would be required in the CCC this year.

I think it's a great idea.

[Bigkegman]

It could and probably mean more entertaining football as well odm cause it would mean instead of 2 teams playing out a dire 0-0 draw for them both to stay up and avoid finishing in the bottom 3 - 1 of them needed 3 points or they both go down

Yes from me

[Winrew]

Wigan should be relegated , mainly because the pitch is like a ploughed field !!

It would also mean that no play offs would be required in the CCC this year.

[crowie]

Originally Posted by Winrew

Wigan should be relegated , mainly because the pitch is like a ploughed field !!

You are Arsene Wenger and I claim my prize

[ONEDUNME]

I didn't see that coming.

[andeeeee]

not so much a relegation system but when a game is drawn only the away team gets the point

[keemanan]

How we can seriously consider the prem to be the cream of football when teams like Middlesborough are halfway up it is a complete joke to me.

Well 4 teams in the last 8 and a few on the brink in the uefa

[andeeeee]

Originally Posted by keemanan

Well 4 teams in the last 8 and a few on the brink in the uefa

i`d blame the ref`s and the pitch`s

[ONEDUNME]

Originally Posted by keemanan

Well 4 teams in the last 8 and a few on the brink in the uefa

Just because the best are amongst the best in europe doesn't mean that half the league isn't dross.

[all_funkt_up]

Originally Posted by ONEDUNME

Just because the best are amongst the best in europe doesn't mean that half the league isn't dross.

Yeah but the dross in any league is by definition, dross.

You look at the bottom half in any league and you will have shit or underperforming teams.

If you relegated the bottom 8 in the Prem (assuming they average < 1 point a game) and you promote the top 8 from the Championship and it could be argued they would fare much worse. They would probably be underprepared like Derby and would be lucky to average 0.5 points per game.

You would end up with clubs not being able to prepare and budget for next season - not knowing whether their TV income would be £2m or £20m and so you could be faced with a raft of teams going into administration each season.

On the other hand, you could re structure player's contracts so that it had written into them that if their team was relegated, their wages went down by 80% - in line with revenues. You would probably see them graft their bollocks off then.

Anyway, I just dont think its feasible - the people that vote for changes are the Premier League's board. And they are made up of all the Premier League Chairmen - the last thing the chairman of Bolton, Boro or Fulham is going to do is to potentially jeopardise the future of their club by making relegation more likely.

[Tricky]

Middlesbrough are a side who can beat their best on their day, but lose to teams you expect them to beat.

Their are 3 or 4 divisions inside the Prem. The top 4 - Man u, arsenal, chelsea, Liverpool, though Everton are doing well to close this down.

At the bottom you know the 7 or 8 clubs at the start of the seaosn who would be down their avoiding the drop, with the exception of Newcastle.


The Championship division seems a weak league this season, with no team being able to breakaway. I fear for the teams going up, as they are going to have to really improve to stay up next season.



Perhaps a better idea is to reduce the premiership to 18 clubs.

[all_funkt_up]

Originally Posted by Tricky

Perhaps a better idea is to reduce the premiership to 18 clubs.

It wont hapen while the Clubs themselves run the Premiership. Clubs are businesses and therefore look at the here and now - short termism if you will. No chairman would vote for the premiership to go down to 18 because it would mean less revenue for them.

[ONEDUNME]

Originally Posted by all_funkt_up

If you relegated the bottom 8 in the Prem (assuming they average < 1 point a game) and you promote the top 8 from the Championship and it could be argued they would fare much worse. They would probably be underprepared like Derby and would be lucky to average 0.5 points per game.

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That's just stupid.

You really haven't thought that through have you? You're forgetting that a newly promoted team would be competing against seven other teams in the same boat as them and some of those teams would obviously pick up points.

Middlesbrough are a side who can beat their best on their day, but lose to teams you expect them to beat.

That's even bigger bollocks. Apart from the win against Arsenal, albeit deserved, can you remember the last time they actually won against a top team because I fuckin can't.

They are a championship side stranded in the Premiership because of the promotion/relegation system.

The standard gets worse every year.

[all_funkt_up]

The problem with the newly promoted teams would be the lack of time to plan. They might not know til right at the very end of the season that they were going to get promoted and so therefore would have a minimum amount of time to buy in new players and strengthen before the start of the new campaign.

Then you would have 8 teams (for example) who were all running round like headless chickens in the close season, all with the promise of TV money for next year, all trying to buy players so they stayed up the following year. The 8th 'best' team in the Championship would have to do a hell of a lot of strengthening.

That would mean clubs gambling on staying up and spending more than they can afford. You would probably see a scrable for players too - so you would have inflation in an already over priced market and probably massive inflation in players wages too. Basically the players and their agents would make a fucking fortune - knowing that with all the new money around, some mug would pay them over the odds to join their club.

What we need in the long term is responsible growth. Investment in youth systems, investment in coaching and trying to raise the standard of the game and teams as a whole. Developing young players with the ability to play at a decent level and bringing in and nurturing talent from abroad.

What we dont need is a mad scramble with 7, 8, 9 or 10 newly promoted clubs all throwing money about at over rated players with them desperate to join their club. In the long run, I think that will see more clubs in administration and like I said before - richer players and richer agents.

[mrmuzeman]

Whenever Boro are mentioned in conversation my opinion of them is yes they are definitely shit for sure but also an anomaly as they do somehow beat the top sides and go on cup runs. Im gona check that out now cos I dont want to have been talking bollocks the last few years...

Yeah they are sweet at home, good portfolio of wins over the last 4 seasons

English Premier Middlesbro 2-1 Arsenal 09-12-2007
English Premier Middlesbro 2-1 Chelsea 23-08-2006
English Premier Middlesbro 3-0 Chelsea 11-02-2006
English Premier Middlesbro 4-1 Man Utd 29-10-2005
English Premier Middlesbro 2-1 Arsenal 10-09-2005
English Premier Middlesbro 2-0 Liverpool 20-11-2004

Theyre also 1-3-1 at Old Trafford in the last 5 seasons which is pretty awesome.

So as you can see along with womens periods being linked to the moon, area 51, the bermuda triangle and how recently deceased people can all be great people who everyone liked - Middlesboro are also an unexplained phenomenon.

Theyre still to play Man Utd at home this season so get your money on