IS THIS JUSTIFIED?

[Ollie6]

Is this the worst play ever by me (hero)? A few things to bear in mind -

- I'm the shortstack here at a relatively late stage of the Sit & Go and, though it's a min bet each time, it actually accumulates to = nearly half my original stack
- How do you rate the flat call to the min-raise preflop?
- Villain is an EXTREMELY strange player, a calling station who has a tendency to lead out post flop with pot sized bets
- Villain has occasionally been caught playing big hands overly slowly


***** Poker Hand History for Game 329245377 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee, Level:6 Blinds(100/200-(no ante)) - Wednesday, March 19, 18:19:37 GMT 2008
$10+$1 NL Holdem #1632001
Table 1 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of active players : 3
Seat 2: Villain ( 4,105 )
Seat 4: Hero ( 2,150 )
Seat 5: bushdoc ( 2,745 )
Tourney Level:6 Blinds(100/200-(no ante))
Villain posts small blind [100]
Hero posts big blind [200]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 8s, 2s ]
bushdoc folds
Villain raises to [400]
Hero calls [200]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, 2c, Kc ]
Villain bets [200]
Hero calls [200]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
Villain bets [200]
Hero calls [200]
** Dealing River ** [ 4d ]
Villain bets [200]
Hero calls [200]
** Showdown **

Anyway, let me know your thoughts. Showdown to follow depending on demand.

Cheers,

Ollie

[AnothrSpacecat]

i think with those blinds you shouldve folded, especially after the flop. but thats me and im no expert

[DAN DAN]

Don't understand your play Ollie, you've got nothing on the flop so you are just throwing chips away.

I'd fold or if I was being brave bluff I'd hit a hand. But no flat calling for me.

But also I am rubbish at these analysis thingies but I want to encourage you to post too.

[Doc]

you've only 10 big blinds. Hands are either fold or push at this stage. 82s is too weak. Fold pre-flop.

The alternative (not that I like it), is to call pre-flop and push any flop.

[kristobal]

don't tell me that guy had ace of spade and was drawing to the nut flush, he missed the draw and your pair of deuces held up ?
if that's the case u r very lucky

is this justified? no, in my opinion - even though you getting big pot odds 5/1, 7/1 and 9/1 (flop - river) your stack is simply too small to call... and even if your opponent is on the draw you let him see turn and river cards too cheaply

fold preflop would be my choice i guess

[AnothrSpacecat]

i never thought of that kristo, this topic wouldnt have appeared here otherwise? his 2's will hold up.

demand is high ollie

[AnothrSpacecat]

actually on second though, the villian is just be trying to bully you out of your blinds, which i wouldve counter attacked with a big re-raise early on, they arent that far in front that they can afford to take a huge risk. you couldve ended the hand before the flop

after it, youre in too deep as it is and have little choice but to carry on, or else youd be waiting on one of the next couple of hands to do the same thing.

im talking jibberish now, i want a game of poker now i think about it..

[Scottieboy08]

Fold pre-flop Ollie

[Ollie6]

I take the point about preflop - I should probably have folded, though he had been chucking out min raises very frequently preflop, so I thought his range might be quite wide and I could donk postflop (I turned out to be wrong about this).

Postflop I just felt that, if Villain had a hand, the action would have sped up a lot considering our stack sizes in relation to the pot - but given that he had slowplayed big hands in this way before, I wanted to get to the showdown without committing my entire stack and show a hand which could beat the low end of his range (I took the high end to be a king, but this didn't seem likely). I thought all the way through - 'he's min raising and min betting here, that shows very little strength doesn't it?'


Anyway, the showdown is as follows:

** Showdown **
Villain shows [ Jd, Ad ] high card Ace
Hero shows [ 8s, 2s ] a pair of Deuces
** Hand Conclusion **
Hero wins 2,000 from main pot with a pair of Deuces
************ Game 329245377 ends ************

This really isn't a hidden brag or anything, because I think on the whole I lucked out after playing the hand quite strangely.

[DAN DAN]

Originally Posted by Ollie6

I thought all the way through - 'he's min raising and min betting here, that shows very little strength doesn't it?

I would say the opposite, min raise and min betting only encourages other people to go with you. A weak hand would often put a big raise in to try and get you off the pot I'd say.

[Bigkegman]

I'm staying out of these threads cause it makes my head hurt

[Scottieboy08]

Like the avatar Ollie, that side parting's coming back in isn't it (Scott Parker's fault ) is that you?