Wednesday, October 11, 2006
2007 AFC Asian Cup - Qualifying, World
11:00 AM Bangladesh 11.00 X 5.25 Uzbekistan 1.20
11:00 AM Chinese Taipei 17.00 X 7.00 Iran 1.10
11:30 AM Australia 1.15 X 6.00 Bahrain 13.00
1:00 PM Korea Republic 1.15 X 6.00 Syria 13.00
1:30 PM India 21.00 X 9.00 Japan 1.05
6:00 PM Pakistan 6.50 X 4.25 Jordan 1.40
7:30 PM Iraq 1.45 X 3.80 Singapore 6.30
8:00 PM Oman 1.90 X 3.25 United Arab Emirates 3.60
8:00 PM Qatar 1.15 X 6.00 Hong Kong 13.00
9:00 PM Palestine 6.50 X 4.00 China 1.42
9:15 PM Saudi Arabia 1.10 X 7.00 Yemen 17.00
(from betandwin)
Now in my highly successful and, probably one day, award-winning rags to riches thread (see here - http://www.thedailypunt.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=13653) I have been betting on a fair number of wild and wonderful things. I have had quite a bit of success with previous Asian and African qualifiers and it's gone to my head and so I thought I would try tipping a few in the 'grown-ups' threads. So, now lets see how it goes if I have to write some kind of explanation for my bets.
First, I must stress that I know fuck-all about these teams apart from what I see in the stats and a very brief trip round the net - so no real expert insider knowledge here. But, from what I have seen there is a lot of consistency to the results and some value in the prices. Of course not many bookies offer these matches and for these Asian Cup matches only Fonbet seem to be offering asian handicap markets, with betandwin, nordicbet & interwetten offering euro' style handicaps.
If you are a fan of very low odds combos then I would say that iran, japan, saudi arabia, qatar and uzbekistan are virtual certainities - nothing is absolute remember.
The first 2 are amongst the best in Asia and india and taipei(taiwan) are simply horseshit - 8 games played between them, 1 goal scored and 38 conceded :loon They are san marino and andorra and best prices of 1.15 for japan and iran are too high despite them being away.
Yemen are better, but saudi arabia at home are just way too powerful and have beat them a combined 22-1 in their last 6 meetings home and away.
Qatar are a half-decent team, especially at home, and hong kong are not good at all - qatar won the reverse fixture 3-0, so it would be amazing for hong kong to get anything.
Finally, uzbekistan who are pretty mediocre it must be said, but bangladesh are of the same standard as india and taiwan - 4 games played 1 goal scored and 13 conceded and one of these was home to hong kong, which they lost 1-0. The reverse fixture finished 5-0 and there is surely no way for bangladesh to get anything here.
So, the first tip here is a 5-timer - maybe I shouldn't have left the rags to riches thread after all
Cheers, Komp. You must have been adding the link just as I was adding it - what do they say about great minds .
I've just read that bahrain are apparently sending their U21 team to take on australia because they want to get the full team prepared for next months match against kuwait. Now australia are not using there top european players for these games, but they beat bahrain 3-1 in the reverse fixture, when I assume bahrain played a full-strength team. In their other games australia beat kuwait 2-0 at home, then lost by the same score in kuwait and bahrain drew 0-0 in kuwait.
There just seems no way that bahrain can get anything here and I did think about adding it to the above bet, but a 6-timer just seems like asking for trouble, so I'll go with an asian handicap bet instead.
australia(-1.5) to bt bahrain @ 1.75 fonbet 5 units
Oman dont really to win this game , draw will do them , bur many talk about this game in Oman , since they lost 1-0 in Dubai in the first leg , and people and players and fans are promissing for the revenge in Muscat , Oman players and fans said they were treated very bad from UAE FA during that game , and they said we dont want anything from this group , ONLY beating UAE will do us and will be our main target . Oman FA decided to open the gates for the fans for free , I expect 30.000 will support like crazy and will put UAE players in the right pressure . Oman are very strong at home , they play in attacking style and the team team is one of the best in the Gulf Area
In that first game oman had 2 players sent off in the last 10 minutes and it is apparently already a kind of derby match.
Oman have won both times that they have played uae at home recently and they seem quite evenly matched, with home advantage often the difference between the 2 sides. So, I think the 2.1 at sporting odds is a pretty good price.
That looks like a decent combo bet there Pydoom, I think I'll chance one as well.
Bangladesh really don't fancy anything from their home game against Uzbekistan and their coach is already looking towards a narrow defeat at best.
Iran have recalled their better players for their trip to Chinese Taipei and are still looking to finish top of the group. A win here would set them up nicely for their final group game against Korea Republic.
Korea are fielding their strongest available side against a poor Syria side
Qatar are looking to keep up their winning ways and are playing against a Hong Kong side who are lacking any sort of match practice.
Uzbekistan / Iran / South Korea / Qatar @ 2.06 - Bet365 (2 points)
Oman are at full strength and looking for the win to seal their progress to the finals.
U.A.E. are missing defensive duo Ali Al Wehaibi and Bashir Said, skipper Mohammed Omar also injured his ankle during preparations for the match, although he is expected to play, while Humaid Fakher and Hilal Saeed are trying recover from illness and fatigue, respectively.
The U.A.E. players are also in the middle of their fasting month and will not be asked to break their fast for the match. The potential effects this can have on the players can be far reaching with regards to their conditioning, with endurance levels usually severely reduced.
Great selections there guys, as this are the final two games some teams have already qualified, therefore taking them on too high handicaps might be risky. Here are some news from the official webbie:-
Five teams, namely Australia, Saudi Arabia, Japan, Qatar and United Arab Emirates, have already booked their place at Asia's showpiece event, joining co-hosts Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand and Vietnam in the last 16, but the pressure remains unchanged for those still chasing victories in the final two rounds of qualifiers.
While the two matches in Group A become academic with Saudi Arabia and Japan in unassailable positions in the top two slots, in Group B Korea Republic and Iran look to be strongly positioned to advance. Undefeated group leaders Korea Republic are certainly brimming with confidence as they head into their return meeting with Syria, knowing that a draw will be enough see them through. The two-time winners will, however, have to make do without striking duo Ahn Jung-Hwan and Park Chu-Young, not to mention key midfielders Lee Chun-Soo and Park Ji-Sung. However, they remain a formidable proposition for Syria, particularly with English-based Seol Ki-Hyeon back to his impressive best. Seol scored a brace in the team's previous 8-0 drubbing of Chinese Taipei and in the recent round of English Premier League action, he claimed the only goal as his newly-promoted club Reading defeated West Ham United. Nevertheless, Syria have proved they are not in this competition just to make up the numbers, having bravely held Iran to a 1-1 draw in the third round. With their qualifying hopes now hanging by a thread, they also know that they have no option but to chase all three points. The task of qualifying looks more straightforward for Iran. Trailing two points behind Korea Republic, they need a victory to progress, but few will doubt their chances of securing the necessary result against group minnows Chinese Taipei. In Group C, Oman will become the second team to progress should they defeat leaders UAE on home soil in Muscat. In the other match in this section, 2004 AFC Asian Cup quarter-finalists Jordan will count not only on claiming three points against Pakistan, but also on UAE beating Oman to keep their slim hopes alive. In Group D, the second qualifying spot behind Australia will not be decided until November, when Bahrain host Kuwait in the final match. Bahrain are currently three points behind Kuwait and to make their task a little easier in the Kuwait showdown, they will hope to take at least a share of the spoils from their match against the Socceroos.
Group E is currently the trickiest to predict, with Iraq and China jointly-leading on seven points each, but with Singapore and Palestine on four and still in with a realistic chance of qualifying. China, 2004 Asian Cup runners-up, disappointed as they were held to a scoreless draw in Singapore in September and their difficulties were not eased by the fact that two key players, captain Li Weifeng and midfielder Shao Jiayi, picked up red cards and resultant suspensions. Having decided that a strict style of management was the key to rebuild the team's morale, the China Football Association launched a disciplinary campaign that included dropping Li for all remaining international matches this season. Keeping in mind that the team just can't afford any further slips-up against Palestine in Amman, coach Zhu Guanghu' side will be hoping for nothing less than a straightforward victory to book their spot. Otherwise, they will have to battle it out against Iraq in the final match in November. To achieve that, Zhu has further strengthened his frontline with two newly recruited forwards, Mao Jianqing and Zhu Ting, while midfield maestro Zheng Zhi is back from suspension and will be joined by Wang Dong in launching attacks from the middle of the park. In the group's other match, Iraq will be looking to complete the job of qualifying against Singapore, and also claim revenge for a stunning 2-0 defeat in the opening match in February.
In Group F, the second spot behind Qatar will be contested by Uzbekistan or Hong Kong. The latter side shocked the central Asians by claiming back-to-back draws, but on Wednesday they will face a stiff test against Qatar, while Uzbekistan will expect to win comfortably against Bangladesh, who sit bottom of the table without a point to their name. General Summary: Iran, Jordan, Uzbekistan looks to be the teams which can be considered with higher handicaps. As my locals have not published the odds for all the teams (they will offer them prior to kick off, i believe). As of now Japan is being offered at asian handicap of 3-31/2.
Cheers
Just logged on and saw the interesting posts, and checked out the official web, and thought I might thus add them in here not even knowing the games have ended. Too bad, than that leaves us with only Jordan would you by any chance know what was the a/hcps offered on both the teams.
Sorry mate, didn't check the handicaps. I had both of them as outrights in an accumulator which is about to be screwed up at the third hurdle by South Korea , so I can tell you the outright prices for those two to win if that's any good to you.
Just don't bother, and am sorry to see Koreans 1-1 with about 4 mins to go. In such scenarios when all accumulators have won i would have betted on the opposing team in running (a/hcp) smaller amount than what the accumulator pays, therefore ending in a profit immaterial of whoever wins, (of course waanting the acc to be in and opposing them as insurance. Hope the Koreans score 1 now............
Cheers Prinze. Bit early to be backing the opposition to save the accumulator just yet though, as I've still got three matches to come (6 teams in all, only 2 of them have finished so far). If it had been the last match in the accumulator then I would've considered it.
I just saw syria's equaliser against korea and what a complete hash the korean keeper made of it - although his defenders didn't do much to bail him out. Tough break if you had korea in your combos.
Australia did the business, they had a stronger team than I thought they would, and my combi is still alive after 3 legs - although qatar seem to be struggling a little bit against hong kong at the moment. Oman are currently 2-0 up, but still a long way to go in that one
Asian Cup 2007 Qualifiers
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Too bad, than that leaves us with only Jordan would you by any chance know what was the a/hcps offered on both the teams.
