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Old 27-04-2008, 21:19
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TT 3-way Pre-Flop

Villain's are both Loose and running at like 60/15 each. The guy who shoves has been a card rack this session. No other reads.

Shove/Call/Fold??

No IQ poker "TURBO" Holland 0.25/0.50, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker
Button ($26.05)
SB ($23.07)
BB ($50)
UTG ($35.15)
UTG+1 ($71.19)
MP ($35.90)
CO-1 Hero ($51.26)
CO ($42.33)

Preflop: Hero is in the CO-1 with T T
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to 1, 1 fold, Hero raises to 3.50, 2 folds, SB moves all-in for 22.82, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls 22.07, Hero...
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Re: TT 3-way Pre-Flop

At best a coin flip - fold.
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Old 27-04-2008, 21:44
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Re: TT 3-way Pre-Flop

Just done a Pokerstove on it:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 24.980% 24.61% 00.37% 630061890 9574236.00 { TcTh }
Hand 1: 33.337% 31.11% 02.23% 796532874 57077058.00 { 99+, AJs+, AQo }
Hand 2: 41.683% 39.71% 01.97% 1016772516 50549898.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AQo }

Is this a fair range? I am Hand 0, UTG+1 is Hand 1, SB is Hand 2.

Think i've answered my own question here actually :/
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Scott is that Kevin Webster from Coronation Street in your avatar?

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Old 29-04-2008, 00:33
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Re: TT 3-way Pre-Flop

First, I don't re-raise with TT.

Once you've raised though, and had all that action after you it's an insta-fold. I fold JJ and QQ here too, and probably call KK reluctantly, although I'm getting better at folding that preflop too.

At worst you're in a terrible spot, at best you're going to need a bit of luck.
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Re: TT 3-way Pre-Flop

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First, I don't re-raise with TT.
Full stop or in this situation?
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Re: TT 3-way Pre-Flop

Definitely not in this situation. I'd probably do so if the initial raise was by a short stack who I felt was looking for a quick double up, because at worst you probably end up in a race there.
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Old 30-04-2008, 03:33
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Re: TT 3-way Pre-Flop

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First, I don't re-raise with TT.

Once you've raised though, and had all that action after you it's an insta-fold. I fold JJ and QQ here too, and probably call KK reluctantly, although I'm getting better at folding that preflop too.

At worst you're in a terrible spot, at best you're going to need a bit of luck.
Againt a 60/15 i will definiteily re raise with 10 10, isolate this complete fish.

I would definitely call with JJ, i cant see how you could even consider folding QQ here dave, these guys are donks.

Id probably shove here scottie, i dont think its wrong to shove. UTG+1 has a very wide range i think here, as does the SB.
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Old 30-04-2008, 12:05
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Re: TT 3-way Pre-Flop

Chris, I didn't expect anyone to agree with what I actually did here. I did shove (although in a vacuum not sure it's ok):

Preflop: Hero is in the CO-1 with T T
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to 1, 1 fold, Hero raises to 3.50, 2 folds, SB moves all-in for 22.82, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls 22.07, Hero raises to 51.26, UTG+1 calls 28.19.

Flop (126.09) K Q T

Turn (126.09) 8

River (126.09) J

Hero shows T T
SB shows K A
UTG+1 shows K K

SB wins 126.09 with A straight, Ace high

If I did flat the 4bet pre, I go broke on this flop anyway.
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Old 30-04-2008, 12:29
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Re: TT 3-way Pre-Flop

Well his utg min raise and flat of the all in was an obvious show of a strong hand, conisdering he had KK lol.

But im sure 60/15's will turn up with all sorts of shite here. I cant blame anyone for folding but i cant blame anyone for shoving, its probably close, but like i said i would probably shove at the time.
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