[Scottieboy08]

OK poll time

Villain is Loose and aggro post-flop. I haven't seen him c/r yet over about 30 hands. Who value bets the river?? Does anyone think if we bet here, we are turning our hand into a bluff?

No IQ poker Lanthanum 0.25/0.50, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker
Button Hero ($54.10)
SB ($48.30)
BB ($76.25)
UTG ($46.05)
UTG+1 ($50)
MP ($98.11)
CO-1 ($12.46)
CO ($42.40)

Preflop: Hero is on the Button with J J
UTG calls 0.50, 1 fold, MP calls 0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to 3, 2 folds, UTG calls 2.50, 1 fold.

Flop (7.25) 5 Q 2
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn (7.25) 6
UTG bets 3, Hero calls 3.

River (13.25) 8
UTG checks, Hero...

[Jezza]

I like the way you played this hand scottie. I also have been trying hard to get better at value bets in these spots. I would probably bet just under 1/2 pot for value, I dont think your bluffing here.

[kompressaur]

I'd have put him on something like A6s Scottie and put in a value bet. I have to admit these threads sure make me see how little i know but it's good to be able to talk poker and hands with folks.

[Yen_Sid]

I'd be betting maybe 3/4 of the pot here Scott. Why did you check the flop out of interest? Think I'd have had a close to pot bet in at that stage.

[Scottieboy08]

Ok, I won't hang around here as it's not the most interesting spot:

Agreeing with Jez, these spots I have been looking for thinner value. I'm never bluffing here FWIW. He would lead the river with anything that beats JJ on the river.

River (13.25) 8
UTG checks, Hero bets 7, UTG calls 7

UTG shows 6 J
Hero shows J J

Hero wins 27.25 with One pair, Jacks

Ed, I didn't bet the flop as I check a good amount of my range here for balance (JJ-99, AK, Qx a fair bit, sometimes AA/KK if oppo is tight)

[Yen_Sid]

Originally Posted by Scottieboy08

Ed, I didn't bet the flop as I check a good amount of my range here for balance (JJ-99, AK, Qx a fair bit, sometimes AA/KK if oppo is tight)

Don't like that play personally, not beyond the realms that he called your pre-flop raise with a small/mid pair (i know he didn't in this case) and you've just allowed his set out, and completely free. Risky tactic in my humble opinion.

[Hippy Dave]

Have to say I agree with Ed, definitely would be betting the flop.

As you've played I'd probably bet 1/2 pot, but I would have looked to get chips in the pot on flop/turn rather than feeling like I had to eek out a bit more on the river.

[christianu]

The check on the flop is fine for me, a bet is also fine, yeah definitely a value bet on the river, you can be quite confident you have him beat at this stage.

[Scottieboy08]

Ed and Dave, I think you'll like this one a bit better:

No IQ poker Lanthanum 0.25/0.50, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

Button ($46)
SB ($35.20)
BB ($17.55)
UTG Hero ($57.15)
UTG+1 ($45.25)
CO-1 ($37.75)
CO ($15.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J J
Hero raises to 2, 5 folds, BB calls 1.50.

Flop (4.25) 4 2 Q
BB checks, Hero bets 4, BB calls 4.

Turn (12.25) 6
BB checks, Hero checks.

River (12.25) T
BB checks, Hero bets 12, BB moves all-in for 11.55

BB shows 8 8

Hero shows J J

Hero wins 35.80 with One pair, Jacks

[Yen_Sid]

Nice one Scott. For very similar reasons to my views on the last hand I don't like the turn check, could be letting his K/A high flush out for free.

[Scottieboy08]

Imo, I'd take that if they hit the flush backdoor, I still think there's a chance they might have c/c a Q on the flop so just wanted to make sure I was ahead. He was pretty donkish

[Yen_Sid]

Nice one pal.