ZOMG - HOW STRONG IS YOUR HAND????????

[Scottieboy08]

Villain is fairly loose but hasn't raised yet (stats 27/0/1.4). His range has to be AA-TT by the turn doesn't it? WTF with the turn card.....

Texas Holdem NL $0.50/$1 - 2007-07-22 20:31:54 Server
Table Americium
Seat 1: Hero ( $100 )
Seat 2: UTG ( $126.70 )
Seat 4: UTG+1 ( $32.65 )
Seat 6: MP ( $91.05 )
Seat 7: CO ( $23.20 )
Seat 9: BTN ( $30.85 )
Seat 10: SB ( $116.60 )

SB posts Small Blind $0.50
Hero posts Big Blind $1

Dealing cards

Your cards Kd Kc [Hero]

UTG calls $1, 1 fold, MP raises $2, 2 folds, BTN calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises $9, UTG calls $9, MP folds, BTN calls $8

Dealing Flop 3h 6c 4d

Hero bets $30, UTG calls $30, BTN folds

Dealing Turn 3h 6c 4d Qc


What do I do here? Check/call, shove, even check/fold (which is gross though)????

[Scottieboy08]

Sorry, pot sizes were:

Flop ~ 32.50

Turn ~ 92.50

I have 61 behind, villain covers

[Doc]

all-in?

no reason whatsoever to believe you're behind. He could be there with any pair IMO.

[Jezza]

Thats a really bad turn card I agree scottie. Hes either got QQ or JJ in my opinion. He would probably have CR all in with AA on the flop. Meh. Im not folding now so i put it in and if he has QQ whatever. I agree it is a sick turn card tho.

[Scottieboy08]

OK, such a bad turn as stated by Jez, however I decided to get it arrrr-in. Not sure if that's 100% better than check/calling for stacks though.

Dealing Turn 3h 6c 4d Qc ~ 92.50

Hero bets all-in for $60
UTG calls $60

Dealing River 3h 6c 4d Qc 7s ~ 206.50

UTG shows Jd Js

Winner is Hero $209.50

Really bad spot again though. Thanks Doc and Jezza

[wazik]

Just sticking this in here instead of starting a new thread.
This was a tricky hand and one of those when your thinking I am priced to call but I am behind.

I'll post it up along with what I was thinking throughout, I'd like to hear some opinions on how you would have played it.

I had been at this table for about 10-15mins and it was wild, not unusual for a 5bb raise to be called by 5 or 6 people preflop. Info on players I have up to this point: Richmer666 raises preflop a lot and cbets often, Ray0104 plays a lot of hands, frenchmad is a nutter.


Blinds are now $0.10/$0.25
Button is at seat 1

Seat 1: MrTortoise - $21.36
Seat 2: frenchmad - $28.86
Seat 3: wazik - $34.69
Seat 4: mike93220 - $8.62
Seat 5: Boxie - $5
Seat 6: freezbiz94 - $24.50
Seat 7: Ray0104 - $52.56
Seat 8: Richmer666 - $36.90
Seat 9: thaigirlontilt - $30.51
Seat 10: Seylo - $22.53

Moving Button to seat 2
wazik posts small blind ($0.10)
mike93220 posts big blind ($0.25)
Boxie posts $0.25
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [5c 4d] to wazik

Boxie checks
freezbiz94 calls $0.25
Ray0104 calls $0.25
Richmer666 raises to $1.25
thaigirlontilt calls $1.25
Seylo folds
MrTortoise calls $1.25
frenchmad folds
wazik calls $1.25
mike93220 folds
Boxie calls $1.25
freezbiz94 calls $1.25
Ray0104 calls $1.25

not a hand that I am a fan of but its gotta be worth a look at that price.

Dealing Flop [3h 9s 5h]

wazik checks
Boxie checks
freezbiz94 checks
Ray0104 bets $2
Richmer666 folds
thaigirlontilt folds
MrTortoise calls $2
wazik calls $2
Boxie folds
freezbiz94 folds

This is a fold most of the time but its not as if I am attached to my 54o so with $13 in the pot I am calling for $2.

Dealing Turn [5d]

I almost didnt want to see this card, its the kind of card that stacks you. Thought I would see where I was at at this point.

wazik bets $8
Ray0104 raises to $16
MrTortoise calls $16
wazik calls $16

When he mini-raises I am folding until this 3rd dude calls, theres now $60 in there with 8 to call. What does he flat call in that spot with? Is he worried that I go all-in? When Ray mini-raises I think he has the house and I am now drawing dead hence folding and then the 3rd guy traps me into a call.

Dealing River [As]

I couldnt decide whether to put what happened on the river up so I'll leave it here but I'll take the result out for now.

wazik checks
Ray0104 checks
MrTortoise checks

Does anyone else make it as far as the river here? What do you think they had?

[Scottieboy08]

What a sick hand

Meh, I fold pre-flop Waz. Still don't like the price tbh. As played, flop call is ok and the turn is a gem You done the right thing leading out but the min-raise is sick. Check is standard on the river. Looking back, it seems Ray may only have had KK/QQ and I put MrTortoise on maybe a combo draw like 78hh or sommat like 77/88.

[wazik]

thats not a sick hand....this is a sick hand...

Money Type: TOURNAMENT CHIPS
Blinds are now $200/$400
Button is at seat 1
Seat 1: wazik - $5165
Seat 5: gercsi - $3835
Moving Button to seat 5
gercsi posts small blind ($200)
wazik posts big blind ($400)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [8h 6h] to wazik
gercsi calls $400
wazik checks
Dealing Flop [9s Ts Kd]
wazik checks
gercsi checks
Dealing Turn [Ad]
wazik checks
gercsi checks
Dealing River [7d]
wazik bets $400
gercsi raises to $1200
wazik raises to $4765 (all-in)
gercsi calls $3435 (all-in)
Returning $1330 to wazik uncalled
wazik shows [8h 6h]
gercsi shows [6d 8d]
wazik has Straight, 10 high
gercsi has Flush, Ace high
gercsi wins $7670 with: Flush, Ace high

anyway....

[Scottieboy08]

Just call that raise on the river Waz, not many hands you beat call the all-in.

[wazik]

yeah I know but I thought he was full of shit

[Scottieboy08]

Originally Posted by wazik

yeah I know but I thought he was full of shit

If you think that Waz, min-raise and let him bluff-raise all-in