Moving To Europe

[kompressaur]

Im considering moving to Lithuania. Ive still family over there but i dont think i'll be tracking them dowm as my gran and grandad who came from there are now dead and we never spoke to them for the past 15 years of their lives so ive no ties really.

Is it easy to move abroad? Do i just turn up with a giro and get a room on the lithuanian dss etc

All help appreciated.

Crowie did you say it was very cheap to live out there? If so how cheap. Im away to investigate. Anyone from lithuania on the forum can tell me what the broadband speeds are like etc.

[kompressaur]

this looks a good read
http://www.inyourpocket.com/lithuania/en/

The crackdown on smoking has begun. While the politicians haven’t rubber-stamped it yet, smoking restrictions are likely to be introduced in 2007. You won’t be able to smoke in venues such as pubs, clubs, cafés or restaurants. Many venues are already starting to slap up the no-smoking signs and little clouds of smoke with legs have started to form near the doors

bah that puts me off a bit. one of the main reasons i was wanting away from Scotland.

EU citizens can live and work in Lithuania for as long as they like but must get a resident permit

cool but can we sign on the dole i wonder.

This place looks cool and cheap no doubt

If nothing else, Visaginas is extraordinary. Lithuania's newest town (born on August 7, 1975) was originally named Sniečkus after a former leader of the Lithuanian Communist party, and one look at the place confirms that it is indeed the product of pure, unadulterated socialism. Built for the sole purpose of housing the workers of the neighbouring nuclear power plant, the architects' dream was to concoct a model town constructed in harmony with the surrounding countryside. What you actually get is a collection of grey blocks built in a forest, which, depending on one's particular viewpoint, is either good or bad. What is clear is that Visaginas is a town like no other. Almost entirely populated by Russian speakers, and a marvellously bizarre adventure for all.

I still cant find out about the telephone system or rent

[kompressaur]

im gonna have to learn to speak the local lingo to.

Lithuanian ABC is based on Latin. The first alphabet was introduced in the Cathecismus written by Martynas Mažvydas in 1547. The current Lithuanian alphabet consists of 32 letters: the Latin characters with extra nasal letters (ą, ę, į, ų) and letters with diacritics (č, š, ž, ė, ū), which are set in the following order:

and i'll have to stop selling dvds. i think if i just turn up like people do in britain i can ask to be housed etc. If not im gonna be a tramp on the streets of lithuania. I'll buy a wee laptop/pda before i go but i dont think there will be many wi-fi zones. Looks like i'd have to sleep near the airport
http://www.wi-fihotspotlist.com/browse/intl/2000119/

[kompressaur]

Here are average prices for certain food items: Note: EUR 1 = LTL 3,45 (Lithuanian Litas – local currency)
Loaf of bread EUR 0,5 / LTL 1,701
litre of milk EUR 0,6 / LTL 2
250 grams of cheese EUR 1 / LTL 3,5
250 grams of coffee EUR 2 / LTL 7
½ kilogram of meat EUR 2 / LTL 7
Bottle of light beer EUR 0,6 / LTL 2
½ kilogram of potatoes EUR 0,45 / LTL 1,5
1 litre of bottled water EUR 0,6 / LTL 2
½ kilogram of apples EUR 0,45 / LTL 1,5
Pizza in a restaurant EUR 2,5 / LTL 9
Salad in a restaurant EUR 2 / LTL 7
Big beer in a restaurant/pub EUR 1,5 / LTL 5
Hot meal in a restaurant EUR 4,5 / LTL 15
Cup of coffee in a restaurant EUR 0,6 / LTL
2 Desert in a restaurant EUR 1,7 / LTL 6
1 cinema ticket EUR 3 / LTL 10

1.00 EUR Euro = 0.670483 GBP

[kompressaur]

1 Lithuanian litas = 0.194476671 British pounds

is that 1 litas - 20p?

300litas is about the average lower priced rent. I'll go for 400litas a month to be a bit classy so by my reckoning that would mean my rent would be about 80 quid a month or 20 a week. sounds reasonable. Im just going for the women and the low cost of living. I'm just gonna spend my time making up webistes about anything and everything and try make enough to live. Also im gonna start trying to make my gambling pay. I could get a sick line for a year too and just get them to pay the money into my bank. I could live like a king out there

[jazza69]

You could busk!

[crowie]

Originally Posted by kompressaur

1 Lithuanian litas = 0.194476671 British pounds

is that 1 litas - 20p?

300litas is about the average lower priced rent. I'll go for 400litas a month to be a bit classy so by my reckoning that would mean my rent would be about 80 quid a month or 20 a week. sounds reasonable. Im just going for the women and the low cost of living. I'm just gonna spend my time making up webistes about anything and everything and try make enough to live. Also im gonna start trying to make my gambling pay. I could get a sick line for a year too and just get them to pay the money into my bank. I could live like a king out there

Yep, thats right Komp. We worked on 5 Litas = £1 when we were there. Round for 4 of us in a pub didn't usually come in at much more than 20 Litas. Think vodka was a wee bit more expensive but wasn't on the spirits.

Taxi from airport to centre of Vilnius was a rip off (everyone got done by it), £16 for about 4 miles or so. Taxi back to airport was 15 Litas

Pizza in the pub was approx 10 Litas, carry out was very cheap from off license, 4 Litas for a big bottle of cider. Think we got 2 cheesburgers & 2 big Macs from 24hr McD's opposite my hotel for about 9 Litas. Even meal in Lithuanian style Pizza Hut style restaurant was only about 60 Litas.


Vilnius itself was superb in the centre. The Old Town part of it, where we were, is a UNESCO world heritage centre. I am no an architecht type person but it really was a superb place to walk about in. The journey out to the airport wasn't as good, quite a few ex Soviet housing estates which didn't look to pretty to say the least.


Didn't see as much of Kaunas, just arrived there by bus for the game and left again after the game.


Ohh and the burds are all stunners!!! Nae honkers in Lithuania!

Yomayo, who used to post in overseas, is Lithuanian.


If your looking for cheap head further East. My mate was in Kiev for the Scotland game, spent about £50 in total. Beer was between 30-50p a bottle from street vendors, £1 a pint tops in "high quality" pubs. One lad texted me on day of the game, had just bought 4 bottles of voddie, 4 bottles of Fanta and a bottle of wine for just under £10. Subway in Kiev cost something like 7p a journey!

[kompressaur]

cheers Crowie. I considered moving further east but with my family originating from Vilnus i feel a kind of affinity with the place. I tend to be a bit of a loner and i quite like being a stranger in town and it can only be better than the shitehole i live in Kilmarnock where i pay 10 litas a pint and smoke 50 litas of cigs a day (anyone know how much the cigs are in Vilnus?)

I dont get to see family much and they can always come to visit me. My sick line ran out yesterday and i slept in for my doctors appointmenmt this morning but i'll sort that out and try get a loan from the social and from as many places as i can then fcuk off. If i have a grand in my pocket and a cheap laptop i should do ok. Here's hoping i can move in the new year and im gonna start heavily selling the dvds from now till then to raise the cash. Knowing my luck i'll end up working in a nuclear reactor 80hrs a week for about 30 quid

[kompressaur]

actually ive got 400 pound deposit on this flat im in so i can plan to go when the lease is up on te 20th of january

[crowie]

Originally Posted by kompressaur

cheers Crowie. I considered moving further east but with my family originating from Vilnus i feel a kind of affinity with the place. I tend to be a bit of a loner and i quite like being a stranger in town and it can only be better than the shitehole i live in Kilmarnock where i pay 10 litas a pint and smoke 50 litas of cigs a day (anyone know how much the cigs are in Vilnus?)

I dont get to see family much and they can always come to visit me. My sick line ran out yesterday and i slept in for my doctors appointmenmt this morning but i'll sort that out and try get a loan from the social and from as many places as i can then fcuk off. If i have a grand in my pocket and a cheap laptop i should do ok. Here's hoping i can move in the new year and im gonna start heavily selling the dvds from now till then to raise the cash. Knowing my luck i'll end up working in a nuclear reactor 80hrs a week for about 30 quid

Don't smoke but cigs were cheap as.

When did your family move from Vilnius Komp? On the day I left we had some spare time so went to the Genocide Museum/ex KGB offices and jail. Pretty sombre stuff. Saw all the cells they used to keep the prisoners who were considered "threats to the State" in and the room where they executed prisoners. Very spooky in there, you were walking on a glass floor which was raised about a foot above the actual floor and on the actual floor there was still small "bits" of people, things like a tooth here or there or someones glasses.

Its scary the shit that Lithuania, and I would imagine the other Baltic states, had to go through. They had the the Nazi's coming at them from one side during the war and the Soviets "looking after" them after the war and controlling the country, well it was part of the USSR I suppose. Shit was going on and people being persecuted right up until 1991.

One of the cells in the museum was a water torture one, basically a sunken floor with a small pedastel, no even a foot wide and about 50cms tall in the centre of the room. Prisoners were bunged in there for 2 and 3 days at a time and they had the choice, either stand in the freezing cold water or try and stand still on the pedastel for hours at a time out of the water, no chance whatsoever of any sleep.

There was a lot of Scottish boys went to the museum over the few days, a very sobering reminder of what the Lithuanians went through and it certainly made you appreciate your own freedom.

Bit about it here

http://www.muziejai.lt/Vilnius/genoc...uziejus.en.htm

and here

http://www.travel-lithuania.com/page...Victims/Prison

[mrmuzeman]

Are there many black people in Litthuania or are they all Reading fans?

[kompressaur]

Thanks Crowie i'll have a wee read up about that when i get back later (no cigs so i have to go out sharpish, no dope so i have to go out)

My grandparents on my mums side moved over just before the 2nd world war Crowie. Their original name was Euravage (spelling might be wrong) but my grandad took a liking to guiness but due to his accent he couldnt say it properly and he was nicknamed Mccuiness a name he took on and that became the family name. I still have great aunties and uncles out there and distant cousins etc. I might try to track them down when i go there.

So January 21st is my date ive set myself. The cheap cigs is the clincher. I would love to meet an interesting lithuanian woman and learn the language etc. I think i could be happy there

[Tom]

Go for it mate, some of them East European woman
Here take a look, have a join of that site and set yourself up?

http://www.allbeauties.net/gallery/country/Lithuania/

I would too but i'm smitten we were together again today Intimately !! and we are off to see me fave comedian Jim Davidson on Thursday i digress