Some early odds

[Gavster]

They can't have listened to these songs! Ok, Norway should be the favourite... but I think it's a bit careless leaving Spain that far out!

To Win Outright

13/2Norway
8/1Russia
10/1Georgia
16/1Greece
18/1Ireland
20/1Turkey
25/1United Kingdom
33/1Malta
33/1Spain
50/1Cyprus
50/1Albania
50/1Iceland
50/1Netherlands
66/1Finland
66/1Switzerland
100/1Armenia
125/1Slovenia
200/1FYR Macedonia
250/1Poland

[Wizard of Oz]

That's a crazy price about Armenia imo as I think it has a fair bit of potential. Granted they need to jazz it up a bit, but it's a catchy chorus and the type of song that I believe will grow on people. Add to that they have never finished outside of the Top 10, so to me it represents great value e/w and i'm on!

[MickeyPaul]

Good to see you, Wizard and thank you for sharing your views.

[Gavster]

It's a cracking bet! Trouble is, I don't rate it as a winner, and you get 1/4 odds every place it loses! But I have to admit, I can't wait till the full markets get released. It's seem this year the bookies don't know their arse from their elbows!

[Wizard of Oz]

Exactly Gav, if these prices are any indication of what the other books will go we are in for plenty of fun and games. Doesnt look a stellar year to me at the moment so happy to spec a few at longer odds and hope they receive the necessary tweaking to liven them up for the Finals. Will be interested to see what price they go Slovakia as thats the other one that interests me at this point in time.

[Gavster]

Slovakia interests me big time. Trouble is, there are a few plagiarism arguments brewing about that - not justified, but just creates bad feeling in the region. She also needs to tighten up the start of the song pitch-wise.

[Beanie]

Shhhhh gav

Yeah she's not good enough as it stands, but it should be a fairly simple song to sing so im still hoping for a big improvement.

[Beanie]

Denmark 2.70 not to qualify for the final. Not had a proper look at the draw yet but given the complete pap they have entered that might not be a bad shout.

Cant see Norway getting enough popular or jury support to win...top 10 is virtually certain but its not a Eurovision winner.

[Gavster]

Originally Posted by Beanie

Denmark 2.70 not to qualify for the final. Not had a proper look at the draw yet but given the complete pap they have entered that might not be a bad shout.

Cant see Norway getting enough popular or jury support to win...top 10 is virtually certain but its not a Eurovision winner.

I think most people will automatically think, "it's someone else's turn to win." Therefore, on that basis, they won't earn as much support.

Denmark is dangerous. I'm working on something at the moment, which I'll release after the 12th. It should offer great clarity when betting on the semis.

In the meantime, sit tight - but do mention interesting bets

[Beanie]

Market up on betfair!!

Market is very weak tho - want to be careful with it at this point....even £40 can spook it the wrong way so will try and get a few quid down here and there on one country in particular if possible

[Gavster]

I'm never very sure about Betfair

Interesting to see another site suggesting Norway as favourites. Indicates that the bookies are in the dark this year! Although, I think it will be a difficult year to predict with all the filth being released.

edit: Croatia is under priced! And you can get 2.0 on Albania not to qualify!! It's woeful and 1st to kick off!!

[squallsquall]

Hi guys,

Where do you find these odds? I've only seen Boylesports and Betfair so far.

[Gavster]

They are the only odds around at the moment, as far as we are aware.

[squallsquall]

Ah ok, thanks!

[Beanie]

Bwin are next up. Generally better prices than Boyles on the market leaders but all still short of the Betfair offer. Few more should have markets up tomorrow.