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Old 22-08-2007, 07:49
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Champions League: 28/29th August

Tuesday, August 28, 2007
8:00 PM Red Star Belgrade 2.30 3.20 Glasgow Rangers 2.85
8:05 PM Liverpool FC 1.35 X 4.30 Toulouse FC 8.00
9:00 PM Dinamo Bucharest 2.85 X 3.20 Lazio 2.30

Wednesday, August 29, 2007
6:00 PM Dynamo Kiev 1.15 X 6.50 FK Sarajevo 13.00 Statistics
6:00 PM Shakhtar Donetsk 1.55 X 3.50 Red Bull Salzburg 5.85
6:30 PM Besiktas 1.70 X 3.30 FC Zurich 4.75
7:30 PM Steaua Bucharest 1.25 X 5.00 BATE Borisov 10.00
8:30 PM Dinamo Zagreb 2.80 X 3.40 Werder Bremen 2.20
8:30 PM RSC Anderlecht 2.40 X 3.20 Fenerbahce 2.70
8:30 PM Slavia Prague 3.10 X 3.30 Ajax Amsterdam 2.10
8:45 PM AEK Athens 3.25 X 3.40 FC Sevilla 2.05
8:45 PM Celtic Glasgow 1.80 X 3.20 Spartak Moscow 4.30
8:45 PM FC Copenhagen 2.70 X 3.20 Benfica Lisbon 2.40
8:45 PM IF Elfsborg 3.85 X 3.50 CF Valencia 1.80
8:45 PM Rosenborg 1.15 X 6.50 Tampere United 13.00
9:05 PM Arsenal FC 1.25 X 5.00 Sparta Prague 10.00
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Old 22-08-2007, 07:49
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Re: Champions League: 28/29th August

I posted that up early as i thought that was some price for Celtic. Bar the barcelona game when did celtic last lose at home in Europe?
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Old 22-08-2007, 18:33
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Re: Champions League: 28/29th August

Sevilla @2.05 komp?

i think this is the gift of the month

Sevilla looks excellent, reminds me the Valencia of 2000-2001, no super stars in the team, but a lot of hard working produsing amazing performances and results

Aek athens is a really poor team, with Rivaldo lol, a player couldnt find a place even in segunda division imo, he is paid too much for NOTHING

Sevilla all the way!

maximum stakes, dont miss it , gift of the week
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Old 24-08-2007, 12:58
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Re: Champions League: 28/29th August

One of my football betting rules is never touch a team that don't need to win. This is especially so re Sevilla who won the home leg 2-0 and are cruising. Wouldn't go near that match.

Celtic standing at 1-1, fall into the same category but only because 0-0 would do them but any other score draw is no good. I've no doubt Celtic will be going for it. Their home record in the CL is as good as their way form is poor and Spartak don't look good enough to stop them making the Group stages. Still, I'll be leaving it alone and sticking to my principles.
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Old 24-08-2007, 13:12
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Re: Champions League: 28/29th August

I agree with you about never betting on teams that dont have to win.

Saying that the way Celtic play at home, Strachans mentality plus the fans egging them on every attack i can only see Celtic trying to win this game.

I was VERY weary of Celtic in Moscow but they did very well and could even have nicked it in the last few minutes. Big change from the previous ventures away from home for Celtic.

At home like you mention Komp Celtic rarely ever lose bar that loss to Juve. Munich, Milan, Man Utd, Lyon, Benfica, Juventus are a few names in the last few season who have failed to come and win at Celtic Park.

Close to 2.00 for Celtic is worth an interest imo. There wasnt enough in the away leg to convince me that Moscow will go through now and with them having to attack i can see Celtic going for a pacier line up to take advantage of this.

What about Belgrade?

Im still not convinced by Rangers to be honest. I really do feel they will be found short in Europe. Last round they wouldve been put away had their opponents in the 2nd leg shown any sort of adventure and attacked.

Their opponents this time look very well drilled and didnt give much away at Ibrox. The reception Rangers will get aswell wont be the most pleasant, thats for sure

Anyone have any big info on Red Star?
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Old 24-08-2007, 19:56
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Re: Champions League: 28/29th August

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What about Belgrade?

Im still not convinced by Rangers to be honest. I really do feel they will be found short in Europe. Last round they wouldve been put away had their opponents in the 2nd leg shown any sort of adventure and attacked.

Their opponents this time look very well drilled and didnt give much away at Ibrox. The reception Rangers will get aswell wont be the most pleasant, thats for sure

Anyone have any big info on Red Star?
Big info? hmmmm nothing special. Oh yeah Nenad Jestrovic sign for Red Star but i'm still not sure will be able to play. He played in Anderlecht before and he was one of the best their striker few years ago.
Pleasant?
Never. It will be wild and everybody know that fans from north side are 12th player
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Old 24-08-2007, 20:00
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Re: Champions League: 28/29th August

All I know is that Red Star is not in form which we all expekt but hope never die
Red Star have great chance this year. At least better then last few years
(Milan-won CL, PSV-4-final CL, Leverkuzen-finalist CL)

I'm taking HW but only because I really hope that we can win rangers... but imo this is NO BET match.
GL to all and we all hope that Red Stsr will go in CL
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Re: Champions League: 28/29th August

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Big info? hmmmm nothing special. Oh yeah Nenad Jestrovic sign for Red Star but i'm still not sure will be able to play. He played in Anderlecht before and he was one of the best their striker few years ago.
Pleasant?
Never. It will be wild and everybody know that fans from north side are 12th player
Jestrovic won't play in Belgrade ,but I am still sure we are going in Champions League MARAKANA is miracle
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Old 25-08-2007, 12:49
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Re: Champions League: 28/29th August

Red Star are not scoring goals and Rangers have been defending well so far this season. An early goal for Red Star could change everything but they never looked like scoring at Ibrox. Rangers didn't look like finding the net either until the very late goal which could prove priceless. If they can score in Belgrade I'd say the tie will be beyond Red Star. I think both Celtic and Rangers will make the Group stage.
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Old 26-08-2007, 18:17
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Re: Champions League: 28/29th August

Anyone think the 9/4 available on Red Star to qualify is a touch on the generous side? Its just been cut from 5/2 at PP. Coral only have them at 13/8 which I think is more accurate. As parahandy says, an early Red Star goal and the momentum will be with them.

Totally agree on not backing teams who don't need to win. It should be everyone's golden rule.
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Old 27-08-2007, 07:37
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Re: Champions League: 28/29th August

I dont know slectabet but i hope someone can share their opinion with you on it before you decide on your own. Thanks for the advice on Celtic Para and Kiko. If i can get evens i still might give myself something to cheer. Cue a boring draw now. nah i'll leave it as Celtic going through could be enough for me. i was just expecting to see celtic about 8/11.

I dont know the first leg scores (1-1 and 1-0 rangers i think) but i always like Rangers to get somethign away in Europ but only when they need to pull out a big performance. I can see Rangers scoring myself Para and i suppose a dour 1-1 game feels about right for me.

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soz Martens im well known for knowing nothing about world club football. I wouldnt know. I would find it very hard for me to back against a greek team in greece and harder still if the greek team are 2-0 down. It feels to bme that AEK could get something and i cant see any reason on taking the shortish odds on Sevilla but then i don't know. i do most my european betting on how a tie 'feels' like some psychic. sad i know but thats my european cup bettig for you.
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Old 27-08-2007, 11:09
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Re: Champions League: 28/29th August

Marakana is sold out, so we can expect over 50 000 spactators in Belgrade.
One thing is sure, and that's tha fact I ain't placing any kind of bet here.

If Rangers manage to score first- everything is over for Red Star, because it's not the kind of team which could score three times especially at the must score - must win option.
That's the main reason for me to avoid this match in a betting sense...cause I feel Rangers will score.

1-0 at HT is something I would like, 2-0 at he end...but that's another story.
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Re: Champions League: 28/29th August

Crvena Zvezda vs Rangers

Again me and my beloved club. Unlucky defeat in last minute in first leg bring most of punters money but lookin in match..draw was more they real outcome in that match. CZ decide to defend goal and they were more then good not allowing Rangers to create any serious chance. Still, Naco Novo scored in 90th minute and this advantage looks pretty big lookin in both sides.
CZ will have great support tommorow night, no doubt. They are still dreaming CL group phase and be sure that players will give 100%. Still lookin in performances till now, I am more then worried about their abilities to score. Only one goal in two league matches against sides who belong to lower part of table plus only 2 goals in three matches in QCL both vs Levadia.
Good thing is that caoch Kosanovic has all players available cause Basta is back after he served suspension and some players who were out cause of injury in first leg are back (Burzanovic Salas) Still, CZ is still trying to find their form and Kosanovic is not sure who will start lookin in last training match vs lower div Zeljeznicar in 5-0 win.
On the other hand, Rangers really confident..all wins till now (QCL , SCO domestic league) They had probs creating chances agsint well organized CZ defence in first round, but now they are squad who will waiting and I am pretty sure their coach is aware of CZ abilities in this moment. Lookin in news, seems all players arrived in Belgrade including ATT Cousin, who left last league match vs Killies cause of injury.

Lookin in all, I write long text but without real opinion but thats simply I can not imagine how this will finish.
Still, hope I help to some of you to, at least, try to create pic about second leg in Belgrade.
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Old 27-08-2007, 18:51
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Re: Champions League: 28/29th August

Guys, I hope you don't mind me posting my thoughts from my blog;

Its a big week week ahead for the Champions League hopefuls as the second leg of the final qualifying round takes place. The British teams managed some good results in the first leg and all 4 will feel they can go through.

On the betting front the Liverpool and Arsenal ties look over and both will be expected to win at home on Tuesday and Wednesday respectively. Liverpool to win are best-priced 1/3 at Ladbrokes and probably not worth the risk, for better odds it might be worth backing them to win to nil, available at 8/11 with both PaddyPower and skybet. Arsenal are 2-0 up from the first leg and at 3/10 (Canbet) are shorter than Liverpool. I think there could be a few goals in this and Sparta might be capable of sneaking one, so you might want to consider over 2.5 goals at 23/25 with Ladbrokes.

The two ties involving Celtic and Rangers are both finely poised. Rangers travel to Belgrade and are sure of a hostile welcome against Red Star. The Serbians had their game cancelled at the weekend in order to prepare for this massive game, whilst Rangers fought out a 2-1 win at Kilmarnock to stay top of the SPL. There wasn’t much to chose between the teams first time around, and they are only separated by a last minute Nacho Novo strike. Whilst I don’t think the ‘Gers team will be intimidated by their hosts, I do think that Red Star might be able to step up a gear from their Ibrox showing. Rangers can afford to lose the game (by a single goal, as long as they score) and still progress, whereas Red Star simply must win in the 90. For that reason I’m tempted to go with the home win at 5/4 (Bet365, BetAndGame, BetFred, Canbet, totesport and vcbet). Alternatively and slightly more appealing is the 27/25 available at Ladbrokes for Red Star on the Asian Handicap with a split of 0,+0.5 (this means that if the game ends in a draw you will get half your stake back).

Celtic are in pole position going into Wednesday’s tie with Spartak Moscow at Celtic Park. They secured fantastic 1-1 draw on a dodgy plastic pitch in Russia . They look to be hitting a bit of form now and have hit the net on 12 occasions in their 3 last SPL matches, most recently hammering Hearts 5-0. Spartak, on the other hand, suffered a 3-1 away defeat to 10-man Rubin at the weekend. Celtic’s home form in the Champions League is second to none, whilst the Russians do not like to travel. Everything points to a home win here and there is still evens available on the Asian market (-0.5) with PaddyPower and Ladbrokes. A safer bet might just be for Celtic to qualify at 1/2 with Coral.

In the other ties, remember the golden rule; Never back a team that does not need to win! Taking that into account there aren’t too many others that catch the eye. Ajax should be backed to turn around their tie despite a tricky visit to Slavia Prague. They need to win there to avoid missing out on Champions League football for the second season in succession. Ajax have hit 12 goals in their first two league matches and seem to be firing on all cylinders since the shock defeat of the first leg. An Ajax win is 6/5 at BetFred and totesport.

Others worth a closer look include Shakhtar Donetsk (4/6 Bet365) to take care of Red Bull Salzburg and Besiktas (8/11 Bet365) to see off FC Zurich. If you’re on the lookout for a few upsets you could do worse than considering FC Copenhagen to overturn their first leg deficit and depose of Benfica at 7/4 with Coral or take Dinamo Zagreb to upset Werder Bremen on the night, the away win is 15/8 with Bet365. Finally the 41/20 at PortlandBet on Fenerbahce to win in Belgium against Anderlecht looks a bit generous and will tempt a few.
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Old 28-08-2007, 06:57
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Re: Champions League: 28/29th August

I will not tuch this two games:
Crvena Zvezda - Glasgor Rangers and
Dinamo Zagreb - Werder Bremen

This two games are open for any kind of results. NO bet for me here..

But what about Liverpool ??
They are without Gerrard and Caragher today and Toulouse come til Englend without three players from defence..I watched first game, nothing special, it seems that reds could score more goals but they played careful..Toulouse was not dangerous and almost didnt had any goal chance..
But today situation can be different..
Liverpool didnt won at Anfield so long time and home win seems as a logical coise here, but i feel that reds without Gerrard and Carragher are different team...Big value on X here..That is what i think...
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