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Old 30-09-2005, 11:49
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Re: English Prem 1st/2nd October

I fancy Liverpool to sneak it 1-0 vs Chelsea
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Old 30-09-2005, 11:56
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Re: English Prem 1st/2nd October

maybe paddy paying out on the Prem will save them money. To close the market now means they wont be accepting crazy bets from people who can bangs tens of thousands on at odds of 1.25 etc... Plus as well they get mentioned in every paper and on every radio station - free advertising as well eh....
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Old 30-09-2005, 12:02
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Re: English Prem 1st/2nd October

Yeah I reckon your right about the free advertising. I might be on chelsea again as I continually underate Liverpool it seems

The 0-1 Goals bet looks a cert though.

Chelsea 1-0 Liverpool
Liverpool 0-1 Chelsea
Liverpool 0-0 Chelsea
Liverpool 1-0 Chelsea
Chelsea 0-0 Liverpool

There last five meetings in the CL and Premiership. 0-1 Goals at around 2/1 could be a very large bet for me Back with more later as per
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Old 30-09-2005, 13:07
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Re: English Prem 1st/2nd October

Yeah gotta say the 2/1 looks too high, surely theres an evens chance of such a scoreline?

As for PaddyPower they still have the market up for the Prem so will still have people placing large bets on Chelsea at short odds. They just paid out to people who already backed em.

NB - I cant find the bet at any higher than 13/8. Was the 2/1 just an estimate Chris?

Still taking it if those are the odds I get, cos I cant see how theres any worse than an Evens shot for the outcome

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Old 30-09-2005, 13:59
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Re: English Prem 1st/2nd October



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Saturday

Blackburn v West Brom
West Brom have now got to start to fight for survival. They have been dragged down after some poor results and they have become a 45-minute team. They will see Blackburn as a bit of a scalp.

Blackburn's win over Man Utd was their best result for a long time. But they are not exactly prolific in front of goal and are still a little bit nervy at home.
Verdict: 2-2

Charlton v Tottenham
Charlton boss Alan Curbishley knows his best 11 players and they are playing well, creating lots of chances and looking good defensively.

Tottenham have made a decent start but I think it could have been better. They haven't got the distraction of Europe and the manager needs to settle on his best team and stick with it for a while. If he upsets one or two players then tough.
Verdict: 2-1

Fulham v Man Utd
The Blackburn loss was such a low ebb for Man Utd. They aren't firing on all cylinders but they are due a performance soon, regardless of their injuries.

Fulham will have to push forward a little bit at home and I feel that will leave them just a little bit open.
Verdict: 0-2

Portsmouth v Newcastle
Newcastle have got a new-found confidence. They are still not there though and missing injured players. They've got a lot to do but have had a couple of steps in the right direction.

Portsmouth are starting to look a bit of a shambles. The manager has had the dreaded vote of confidence and Fratton Park's not the fortress it has been in the last couple of seasons.
Verdict: 1-2

Sunderland v West Ham
Sunderland will be buoyed by last week's victory over Boro. That first win will be a relief to them. The doom and gloom has gone and they'll really start to fight now.

West Ham are a big scalp now and this is their biggest game of the season so far, including Arsenal, because they've done really well and people expect them to go there and win.
Verdict: 1-0

Sunday

Man City v Everton
We should still be at church when this starts shouldn't we? I believe Everton will end their barren run a la Sunderland. There's nothing worse than playing at home when you're losing, so it should take a little pressure off them being away for this one.

It looks like City's luck has deserted them. They were unlucky against Newcastle, Doncaster and Bolton and sometimes as players you think 'what's happening here?'
Verdict: 1-2

Wigan v Bolton
I don't think this will be a classic by any stretch of the imagination. It will be more of a Lancashire hotpot. There is a lot of strength and drive from both teams.

Bolton will have played in Europe but their manager Sam Allardyce has done a great job and leaves no stone unturned as he sets up his side to win games.
Verdict: 1-1

Arsenal v Birmingham
Arsenal were missing some players and had a good result against a young Ajax team in midweek. This is like a direct debit 2-0 - it looks guaranteed.

Can Birmingham create a real threat to Arsenal at the back? I don't see it somehow.
Verdict: 2-0

Aston Villa v Middlesbrough
Boro's results on the back of Europe are not particularly great and they were poor against Sunderland, which means I'll go for Villa.

Villa played well and created lots of chances against Tottenham in their last home game and should've won.
Verdict: 2-1

Liverpool v Chelsea
I think like most of the games between these two, it'll be a draw. This time it might be 1-1 only because of a bit more familiarity.

They aren't classic games because they tend to cancel each other out and I can't see, even with a change of personnel, that there will be a great deal of difference between the two teams.
Verdict: 1-1
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Old 30-09-2005, 13:59
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Old 30-09-2005, 14:00
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Re: English Prem 1st/2nd October

can we not have a ODM v Lawro Challenge? That would be good on the front Front Page
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Old 30-09-2005, 15:43
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Re: English Prem 1st/2nd October

What about Man U fulham over 2.5 goals? 21/20 with Bet365. Isnt there usually goals between these 2?

Actually just checking and last year the games finished 1-0 man u and 1-1. Thats that idea fcuked then.

Man U 8/11 with skybet? no
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Old 30-09-2005, 16:30
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Re: English Prem 1st/2nd October

Liverpool vs Chelsea

Apologies MrM it was an estimate and the bookies have made this 13/8 for the 0-1 Goals and like you said it isnt any less than a 50-50 chance, Id say it was more than a 50% chance. The only thing that will turn it into a goal feast is an early goal!

It will be a tight game again and im on that 0-1 Goals at 13/8 as I was midweek!

Liverpool vs Chelsea 0-1 Goals 2pts@13/8

Ive backed against Liverpool 3 times this season and each time they have drew. I should of just layed them as my argument was they were always underpriced. Im not sure if I can bring myself to back against them again though. One for me to think about!

Wigan vs Bolton

Bolton have a few injury problems but have a decent enough squad to be able to deal with it. After there european game with City they were awful and looked very tired. They tried to defend the game out and got lucky with us hitting the woodwork 5 times.

I think this will happen again with them looking to keep it very tight. They havnt conceded a goal in there last 3 games. All ended with 0-1 Goals. Im not sure Wigan will have the guile to break them down.

Wigan Athletic 0-1 Chelsea
Charlton Athletic 1-0 Wigan Athletic
Wigan Athletic 1-0 Sunderand
West Bromwich Albion 1-2 Wigan Athletic
Wigan Athletic 1-1 Middlesbrough
Everton 0-1 Wigan Athletic

Wigan themselves have also been involved in drab low scoring affairs so at 15/8 I think another 0-1 Goals smells of value. More than a 36% chance surely?

Wigan vs Bolton 0-1 Goals 2pts@15/8

I may also have a sneaky and my first double of the season on Bolton and Chelsea at 7/5 and 8/5 respectively.
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Old 30-09-2005, 16:39
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Re: English Prem 1st/2nd October

Personally I wouldnt back Bolton. Wigan have been suprisingly on the ball this season and although Bolton are always a tough outfit, they had to work hard in Europe this week and had to go abroad remember. In another week I think it would be a fair punt but this week that price is right imo. The 0-1 goals pick is fair enough though.

Im on the Chelsea 0-1 goals for a few points for sure
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Old 30-09-2005, 17:35
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On the subject of the 0-1 goals market, im considering City V Everton at 2/1.

Im not sure of exact stats but id imagine that about half our games are 0-1 goals just as a general rule last season. Weve lost 1-0 a few times this season and won 1-0 twice as well.

I also notice City are struggling infront of goal in the absence of Andy Cole. I think this has a coinflip type chance of finishing 0-1 goals IF...

Andy Cole doesnt start and James Beattie doesnt start AND

We play 4-5-1 which we almost always do

Ill have to wait for team news but thats ok cos I dont think the price will be going anywhere.

What do you think Slick an Chris?
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Old 30-09-2005, 17:41
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Re: English Prem 1st/2nd October

Only pick for me (apart from interest only stakes on live games) this week is Newcastle - agree they aren't firing on all cylinders and it wouldn't take much for pompey to at least get a draw but i'm gonna back newcastle i think until they get beat.
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Old 30-09-2005, 17:48
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Re: English Prem 1st/2nd October

Newcastle i did like the look of.

Wins bring confidence and the Newcastle camp will certainly be buzzing at the minute and will certainly fancy their chances against a depleted and out of form Portsmouth side.

Dyer looks set to return and anyone who has seen previous Newcastle games with Dyer he has been by far one of their best players each time. He supports the attackers very well and i reckon he will link up very well with Owen and their pace will cause all sorts of problems.

Emre and Solano are possibly set to return but i wouldn't think so as i couldve sworn i read Solano is out for a further 2 weeks and Emre won't be rushed back again after getting injured last time coming back from injury.

Lua Lua will be a massive loss as he has been one of their better players although i think he is a twat.

Robert is another loss as he has one of the best deliveries around and it always a danger from set pieces.
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Old 30-09-2005, 17:57
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Re: English Prem 1st/2nd October

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On the subject of the 0-1 goals market, im considering City V Everton at 2/1.

Im not sure of exact stats but id imagine that about half our games are 0-1 goals just as a general rule last season. Weve lost 1-0 a few times this season and won 1-0 twice as well.

I also notice City are struggling infront of goal in the absence of Andy Cole. I think this has a coinflip type chance of finishing 0-1 goals IF...

Andy Cole doesnt start and James Beattie doesnt start AND

We play 4-5-1 which we almost always do

Ill have to wait for team news but thats ok cos I dont think the price will be going anywhere.

What do you think Slick an Chris?
Im sure Cole is playing MrM and thats as far as Ive heard. I can see what you mean as it seems like it might just be a bit of a bore game but at home we are creating a lot of chances and it only needs one to go in for a few more I reckon.

City will play 4-4-2 and we have done all season and it might be a question of us breaking you down. I could see this ending low scoring and I will agree that 2/1 is probably value. I also did initally like Everton at 4/1 but only because its City and were the type of team to lose this game

But im gonna stay clear and just enjoy watching my teams match
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Old 30-09-2005, 18:01
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Re: English Prem 1st/2nd October

I will do the same if Cole if playing cos I always fancy him to bag one. Who knows maybe if Beattie can start (since injuring HIS TOE, HIS LEFT TOE, in the 1st league game of the season) then we could have a goalfest on our hands
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