Scotland Divs 1-2-3 - 1st October - Page 2 - Betting Forum

**kompressaur** · #16 (**permalink**) 29-09-2005, 15:36

Dumbarton looked ok in their win on saturday as im sure Steven will agree
http://www.dumbartonfootballclub.com...eports/?id=115

a few players back and a new signing. Unbeaten at home. Just a shame their away this week but i actually think Gretna play better on the road. Still think its a potential bananna skin. Dumbarton getting themselves together. Hard team to break down on their day.

Just reading that about Stranraer there Milners soz i missed t before. He talks some shite Neil Watt from what ive picked up. I really dont rate Stranaer and think any good team about evens is worth a shout against them. I remember Stranraer struggling against Arbroath and teams like that this season and havent heard too much since to convince me that theyve movd on at all. St Johnstone seem a strange mob though and blow hot and cold. I still think they'll win this one though.

Albion Rovers are 6/4 with Betdirect. I ant so sure about them outright now and might stick to the ht coupon with them. I dunno.

This sums up ayr and morton to me in what is traditional a hard fixture for Morton last week
http://www.ayrunitedfc.co.uk/index.a...ews&newsid=338

2 wins in 21 games for Morton. Their in the best shape theyve been for years.

Theyll be missing Greacen from the centre of their defence this week mind
http://www.ayrunitedfc.co.uk/index.a...t&matchid=4315

over 50 fouls in the game

I have to apologise for comments made on the Bells midweek thread. It was posted up that Hamilton were at home to St Johnstone as per bet365. They werent. I mentioned i fancied St J in light of a few injuries to Hamilton and due to it being at Hamilton (i thought) was at St J

Soz

Hamiltons Billy Reid after that game-

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On Tuesday I was slightly disappointed with our first half performance. The newspaper reports on wednesday morning said that we scored against the run of play and that St Johnstone dominated the first half , but I don't agree with that. I think that they were slightly the better team in the first half and they passed the ball better, especially from the back.

Montose sites view after the 2-0 home defeat by stenny sat-

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This was a poor, poor performance. The gossip flying around in the wake of Brian Fairley's resignation from Forfar and Cairney falling on his sword at Gayfield is that Henry was asked to resign but refused. Whether this is true and whether the board will now decide to dismiss him will make interesting reading in the press in the days to come. Whatever happens, it is a dejected and demoralised side that will travel to face league leaders Berwick next week

Just reading that Harvey and Reilly both missed late fitness tests for their game at East Fife last week. QP aint the same with Trouten in the middle when Harvey aint there and i can see them getting back to winning ways this week with them back onboard. Im always wary about arbroath though but fairly confident. what you reckon?

From Falkirk today newspaper-

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McKeown faces injury woes
Key players may be out
STENHOUSEMUIR are on the road again this weekend and will be eager to continue their current form by picking up another three points.
Saturday's opposition at Central Park comes in the form of Mixu Paatelainen's Blue Brazil, Cowdenbeath.
They are currently sitting in third place on 12 points – seven behind second top Warriors – and were one of manager Des McKeown's start of season favourites to make the step up to the Second Division.
However, there are doubts over a number of key players.
"I still believe that Cowdenbeath will be there or thereabouts come next year," McKeown told Heraldsport.
"I expect them to be pushing for the championship and now that Mixu Paatelainen has found his feet and is making sure his team play in a particular style, they will be very hard to break down.
"I'm keen on keeping the current sequence of results going however.
"Home or away, our players have to approach the games in the right manner.
"While I am very happy with how we have been playing and the results we have been getting so far this season, I believe there is still more to come.
"Everyone will have to be right up for the game and hopefully that will mean another three points for us."
One major concern is that the club's – and league's – top scorer Paul McGrillen, who scored twice against Montrose last weekend to take his tally to seven, is doubtful. John Paul McBride is also struggling with a knock and McKeown will see how they both respond to treatment this week.
Jim Mercer, who completed the 3-0 scoreline against the Gable Endies with his sixth goal in six games, is struggling with a hamstring injury and is unlikely to feature.
Meanwhile, Colin Cramb, who himself has six goals to his name, is due back from a ban but currently has a dose of flu and will be the subject of a late assessment.
Either way, McKeown will be desperate to keep on the trail of league leaders Berwick, who themselves face Montrose at home this Saturday.

newportcounty · #17 (**permalink**) 29-09-2005, 15:38

Thanks for welcoming me lads, nom m and lucky aren't the same person. May wait until Saturday morning for your views komp, just hope there's not a price change.

Cheers again

**Beanie** · #18 (**permalink**) 29-09-2005, 16:04

Good to see you new lads

Stenhousemuir potentially missing Mercer, McGrillen, JPM, and Cramb???

Holy hell that's a nasty injury list - I reckon Frankie Carrol will fall down the stairs and break his neck today

Won't be touching them if any more than 1 of those players is out, but probably wont be touching them anyway - as Komp says Cowden are getting their silky stuff together, and now doesn't seem a good time to oppose them.

Still got big fancies for Albion and St Johnstone - as Lucky says East Stirling keep threatening a revival but it never materialises and they slip back to their old form. Diack was firing in a goal a game for them early this season and it still wasn't helping.

**kompressaur** · #19 (**permalink**) 29-09-2005, 20:12

Just off to bed but noticed bet365 have moved Montrose from 13/2 to 5/1 and QOS from 13/2 to 9/2

They were out of line though.

**kompressaur** · #20 (**permalink**) 30-09-2005, 08:55

Right time to get going. I like a late start. hould be finished for midday tomorrow.

My selections could be-

St Johnstone @ 5/6 (Evens Vic Chandler)
Albion Rovers @ 5/6 (6/4 betdirect)
East Fife @ 11/10 (13/10 bet365)
Queens Pk @ 11/10 (6/5 Paddy Power)

also could figure-
Airdrie @ 23/20 (5/4 totalbet)
Dundee @ 5/6 (Evens Ladbrokes)

and i dunno about forfar. Morton at 4/9 i would take with something else poss East Fife.

milners · #21 (**permalink**) 30-09-2005, 09:57

Worse card as I say I've seen this season. Struggling to pick 2 or 3 when last week I could have picked 8 or 9.

Will wait for team news but here is what I fancy at the moment:

Dundee although when was the last time they won away (drawn 3 this season didn't win apart from the Dundee derby last season) - ladbrokes have 2.00

Slighty fancy Raith against Forfar but its a bit skinney at 1.73, also slighty fancy Ayr United against Striling Albion at 2.25.

Fancy Morton but do I want to take a cert at 1.44 is it worth it.

Third division i fancy mostly homes in this, fancy Cowdenbeath if Stenhousmuir do have injury problems 3.4 is massive value, for some reason i fancy East Stirling to get a result against Albion 3.0 looks decent value against both but I think i might give it a miss. Do fancy Queens Park against Managerless Arbroath at 2.2.

So from that:

Dundee @ 2
Morton @ 1.44
Raith @ 1.73
Ayr United @ 2.25
Cowdenbeath @ 3.4
East Stirling @ 3.0
Queens Park @ 2.2

Try and get that done to a 5,3,3,1 system although i think i'll take Inverness as my 1pt.

**kompressaur** · #22 (**permalink**) 30-09-2005, 10:16

Just reading Milners that Cramb is more than likely to figure for Stenhousemuir but McBride, Mcgrillen and Mercer will be missing. Im still wary of Cramb and Carroll upfront though and will sit this one out. Should be a cracker. I wouldnt be suprised to see Cowdenbeath take it but then again i cant see Stenny not scoring a couple themselves

Its a Fife holiday this weekend so i dot know if that will effect the away support. I dont even know how the away support affects things really thinkin about it. Gretna take about 12 to an aay match and they seem to do ok on the road.

Dundee im worried about the draw. Seems to stink of draw that one to me this morning with both teams probably happy with a draw. If Dundee show signs of getting some players back etc though i could be swayed.

Arbroath have John McGlashan as their new manager. He's a good Arbroath man aint he?

Im sure he spent many a season there. Ill have a look.

Found a video of fans leaving. Check the dude out in the kilt

http://www.arbroathfc.org.uk/2005-6/c_1/leave.wmv

only wee

more here including some bad goals. Gonna go have a look

http://www.arbroathfc.org.uk/

**kompressaur** · #23 (**permalink**) 30-09-2005, 10:19

they have to be the worst shot and worst footie technique videos ive ever see

Mr Chips · #24 (**permalink**) 30-09-2005, 11:43

I have a slight inkling to take Dundee also but they have a dire away record. maybe they have a comfort zone to only a 20 mile radius of Dundee as they managed a draw at St Johnstone didnt they. Brechin should just be on the limits of this. Howevere Pretty sure I read last week that Forfar beat them in a training match 2-0!

Probbaly have a look into St Johnstone but even that doesnt encourage me

Mr Chips · #25 (**permalink**) 30-09-2005, 11:48

Little Brechin vs Dundee preview here. Doesnt give me confidence for either side

http://www.thecourier.co.uk/output/2...y7593319t0.asp

But Dundee’s current record reads seven successive games without a win and they will be as desperate as the home side to get back on track tomorrow.

Dens boss Kernaghan, who has doubts over injured duo Tom McManus (Achilles) and Iain Anderson (ankle), believes his team could be just a win away from a change of luck.

Also, if they can see off City it will bring an end to their run of 28 away matches without a win since they beat neighbours United on August 14, 2004—the longest stretch of any senior side in Britain.

“A victory could settle things down,” he said.

“We have not won away from home for 13-14 months (or outside the City of Discovery for more than 500 days) so that is something that has to be addressed pretty quickly.”

crowie · #26 (**permalink**) 30-09-2005, 11:53

2pts on Ross County at 1.50 with various.

This does look a pretty straight forward home win for me and I think the price is acceptable. Ross don't score a lot but they have been pretty efficient at home this season, only dropping points to Hamilton. Defensively they have been solid, with only 3 goals conceded in 7 games. And while Ross have been solid defensively QOTS have been shocking in front of goal with 2 scored and 11 conceded in 7 games this season.

I don't think there will be a lot of goals but Ross are the clear form pick and their strong defence shouldn't be troubled too much by the side with the joint worst attack in Scotland this season.

For those of you who like a larger price, VC go 2.2 on Ross HT/FT. They have a reputation for starting well and all 3 home wins have seen them lead at HT. Stan James and Hills go 1.91 the HT/FT.

crowie · #27 (**permalink**) 30-09-2005, 12:03

St Johnstone and Dundee haven't done enough to convince me that they are worth backing at 2.00 and 1.91 away from home this season. I will be leaving those.

Hamilton v St Mirren is also too close to call and I bet no one at the start of the season saw this as 3rd v 1st at this stage. Both of them have been a surprise to me and it wouldn't also surprise me to see this ending up a draw.

Airdrie's home form doesn't look great at first glance, 1-0-2 but they have played St Mirren, St Johnstone and Ross County so far so the record isn't as bad as it first looks. Their last 4 overall has seen them face the 2 St's and Dundee and Hamilton away from home and only St Mirren (1-0) have beat them out of that lot. Would maybe consider them to beat Clyde but I don't quite like the 2.25 price.

crowie · #28 (**permalink**) 30-09-2005, 12:13

2pts on Morton at 1.50 with Betdaq

Betdaq's almost non existant market on Scottish Div 2 does have someone offering 1.50 on Morton. I am happy to accept that.

Only Gretna have denied them at home this season, as Komp says, they are rock solid and to me there isn't any reason why we shouldn't be backing them at these prices.

Defensively again, they are sound, only 5 conceded which is the best in the league. 8 home goals in 4 games, although you could say 3 as the Gretna game saw them lose 2-0. Despite that loss they are still hot on Gretna's heels and I think will continue to chase them for a large part of the season.

Peterhead have done ok in Div 2 this season after I originally thought they would struggle. However they haven't yet faced the top 2 who do look a different class from the rest of the league. Last weekend they lost 1-0 at home to 3rd place Raith and although they got a good 1-1 draw at 4th placed Ayr from match reports I believe Ayr were much the better side.

In short I think Peterhead will produce some results against the bottom half sides but when faced with decent quality sides, especially the likes of Gretna and Morton, they will be found out.

Lucky · #29 (**permalink**) 30-09-2005, 12:21

I fancy Ross as well, It certainly looks like a game that they should win but I have been let down by them more than once, so, I am not sure.

I'm finding it hard to pick a third bet, Stenny have enough in injuries to put me off, I like Ayr, surely they should beat Stirling, who have now had 5 straight losses! but they are a team I have rarely backed.

So, all have so far is Berwick, (who are not very popular on here,) Albion, (who Milners does not like!) and possibly Ross and Ayr. I will now await team news.

crowie · #30 (**permalink**) 30-09-2005, 12:26

1pt on Ayr at 2.25 with Bet365.

Bet365 are offering a pretty big price on Ayr IMO. I would say nearer to 2.00, or a shade of odds on would be fairer.

Lets look at Stirling first of all. A 0-0 opening day draw at Partick confused a few of us. However since they they have been poor. 6 losses in a row and while these losses started as tight results the last 3 have seen them concede a total of 10 goals - and hardly to "elite" sides, their opponents being 2nd bottom Dumbarton, Peterhead and losing 5 at Raith. There is not a lot going for Stirling at the moment and I think they are facing one of the divisions better sides tomorrow.

So why are Ayr 2.25 tomorrow? Well if you look at their league record you can see its 2-4-1 this season. Not exactly racking up the wins. The one defeat first of all was a 1-0 loss last weekend in the last 2 mins v Morton. No real disgrace in that IMO.

You should also look at Ayrs last 5 games - Morton, Raith, Partick, Gretna and Peterhead. Basically the 5 sides who make up the top half of the league along with Ayr. And as mentioned, Morton were the only side to beat them out of that lot. The other 4 games all ended up as draws and Ayr scored scored 8 goals in those games, not bad going considering they were harder sides to play.

When Ayr have played sides near the bottom (Forfar, Dumbarton) they have beat them (2-1, 2-0).

So while on the face of it Ayrs record doesn't look great this can be accounted for by the strength of the opposition.

I think they will be onto an easier game tomorrow and be glad they are not facing a stronger side like they have done in the last 4 weeks. As long as there is no complacency in the Ayr side I think they should take case of Stirling tomorrow. And 2.25 definately appeals.