CC League Two: 08/09 Ante Post

[kompressaur]

Gillingham 8/1
Darlington 8/1
Rochdale 9/1
Port Vale 10/1
Bradford 10/1
Chesterfield 11/1
Wycombe 12/1
Bournemouth 14/1
Rotherham 16/1
Luton 16/1
Barnet 16/1
Shrewsbury 20/1
Notts County 20/1
Lincoln City 20/1
Grimsby 20/1
Brentford 20/1
Aldershot 20/1
Exeter 25/1
Bury 25/1
Morecambe 33/1
Chester 50/1
Macclesfield 66/1
Dag & Red 66/1
Accrington 66/1

1/4 Odds Place 1, 2, 3

Odds from William Hill

[kompressaur]

Luton town on the drift. Whats been happening there? Points deductions? Rochdale coming in with most. I always like the teams that came down in this league. Bournemouth finished the season well didnt they? They did me proud 00/01 in this league and the could do again. them and Chesterfield again poss. Looks an intersting league again. Good to see Aldershot back in the league. Actually no it aint as they always bored me. Red and white halved shirts havent they?

[Winrew]

I`ll await RC,s thoughts on the Gills prospects.
Any relegation prices out yet ?

[rcgills]

Originally Posted by Winrew

I`ll await RC,s thoughts on the Gills prospects.

No value whatsoever at that kind of price, I'd say. There was plenty of talk towards the end of last season too of whether we'd go into administration if we got relegated, quite a few people seemed to think we would. Whether we will or not I've no idea, but we've just reduced a 12m debt to a 3m debt through the chairman selling the ground to himself (well, a newly created company headed by himself), and bearing in mind the chairman's currently about as popular as a condom salesman in the Vatican, that's probably not a good position to be in. If he decided to turn nasty, we could end up in a similar position to Rotherham and without our own ground.

Can't imagine anything possibly happening during the pre-season that would shorten our price much from 8/1, but I can think of plenty of things which would lengthen it considerably, if you're thinking of backing them I'd hold fire for a while yet.

[rcgills]

Originally Posted by kompressaur

Luton town on the drift. Whats been happening there? Points deductions?

Just been deducted 10pts for dodgy transfer dealings. Also likely to get a 15pt deduction for the same reasons as Leeds last season, so they may well be starting the season on -25pts.

[Punter]

Early days but at the moment i like the chances of Port Vale going straight back up

[Frodo]

Budget cuts at Darlington and rumoured budget cuts at Wycombe. Accrington have lost their main club and stadium sponsor though, that could hit a side who are already the poorest in the league.

Bradford seem to be showing signs of splashing the cash. Shrewsbury appear as though they might have a very good budget and they've a manager in Paul Simpson who won the league with Carlisle.

Bournemouth likely to be deducted 15 pts aswell as Luton, it could happen to Rotherham too. Rotherham have also moved to the Don Valley stadium.

At the moment though there's no big favourite. I probably like Chesterfield, I think they're capable of alot better and the signing of Robert Page can only be agood thing.

16/1 on Barnet could be the most ridiculous pricing in the football league. I'd probably not take double that.

[kompressaur]

Just reading on the news thingy Kop about Port Vale supposedly buying well so far. 6 new signings etc. Luton as low as 16/1 with some and double that with others. Bournemouth price the same. Im liking the sound of Bradford myself and i could back them sooner rather than later

[Frodo]

If anyone knows of a L2 relegation market can they stick it on here. I'm hunting around for one because I'm interested to see what odds Luton are.

[Punter]

Bradford could be a winner Komp.

Luton to be relegated Frodo

Whaddayaknow? Big points deduction? Doing a Gretna?

[Frodo]

They could start next season on -25. That'd mean they'd effectively have to be a playoff team just to have a chance of avoiding relegation.

[jbgb007uk]

Right I see you have all been looking at my club

Here are my thoughts

Ins -
Robert Page - top class centreback at this level, one of Huddersfields best players last season, will be our captain
Kevin Austin - Old veteran of a centreback but played a good few games for Swansea last season, was offered another year there too, must be good enough for league 2.
Lloyd Kerry - Central midfielder from Sheff Utd, was on loan at Chesterfield last season, when he performed well. Combative and good enough for this division
Paul Harsley - Port Vale player of the season last year, apparently always gives 100% which is good enough in this league

Out -
Peter Leven - Joins MK Dons - our captain last season, plenty of ability but carries too much weight, played out of position last year a lot so wont be missed too much


Issues -
Janos Kovacs - not signed new contract - Centre back who is capable and strong but lacks experience - hope he signs on again
Jamie Ward - Apparently lots of clubs want him
Lack of Wingers - need to get two wide men in to supply the strikeforce
Managers inexperience - only 2nd full season in management could hamper the promotion push

So at the moment I would not back us, if we get a couple of good wingers in, which apparently could happen soon then we are definately one of the better teams in the league. Keep a close eye on Jamie Ward and the transfer saga as if he stays I might have a dabble on us being the leagues top scorers (if there is a market!!) him and Lester are much better than league 2 standard.

So all in all wait and watch our transfers

[Frodo]

Originally Posted by Frodo

Budget cuts at Darlington and rumoured budget cuts at Wycombe. Accrington have lost their main club and stadium sponsor though, that could hit a side who are already the poorest in the league.

Bradford seem to be showing signs of splashing the cash. Shrewsbury appear as though they might have a very good budget and they've a manager in Paul Simpson who won the league with Carlisle.

Bournemouth likely to be deducted 15 pts aswell as Luton, it could happen to Rotherham too. Rotherham have also moved to the Don Valley stadium.

At the moment though there's no big favourite. I probably like Chesterfield, I think they're capable of alot better and the signing of Robert Page can only be agood thing.

16/1 on Barnet could be the most ridiculous pricing in the football league. I'd probably not take double that.

<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com</st1:City>Shrewsbury back up the moneybags theory by beating some L1 clubs to the £170k signing of Grant Holt from <st1:place w:st="on">Forest</st1:place>. I’m told he was <st1:place w:st="on">Forest</st1:place>’s top scorer the season before last. When he was last in L2 playing for a below average Rochdale side he was top scorer in the league before they sold him to Forest in the January transfer window (I know this because I had him at 33/1 and was thrilled at his move). Could be an interesting one.

<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com</st1:place>Blackpool captain Michael Jackson which has to go down as an excellent signing for this level.

[kompressaur]

Sorry it's a bit muddled Frodo-

Coca Cola League 2 Relegation 08/09
Accrington 3/1
Barnet 8/1
Brentford 14/1
Chester 5/1
Luton 10/1
Rochdale 16/1
Macclesfield 5/1
Notts County 10/1
Port Vale 16/1
Dagenham 5/1
Grimsby 12/1
Chesterfield 25/1
Exeter 5/1
Lincoln 12/1
Wycombe 25/1
Bournemouth 5/1
Aldershot 12/1
Gillingham 33/1
Bury 6/1
Rotherham 12/1
Bradford 33/1
Morecambe 6/1
Shrewsbury 14/1
Darlington 40/1
From Skybet

[Bigkegman]

Rotherham to win and Chester to get relegated.

Cant remember where I got these views/info from but I've had them written on the back of an old ante post Euro 2008 coupon for weeks. just posting here to remind me just in case i throw out coupon