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Spread Betting Guide

Here are a few examples of the markets avaliable that ive copied and pasted,and how to understand the index when deciding wether to buy or sellGolf -
The most common spread bet on golf is a Multi Player Index, in which the bookmaker awards something like 50 points to the winning golfer in an event, 30 to the second placed golfer, 20 to the third and 10 to the fourth. It might be called a Tournament Index. There can be any number of players in this index but its usually a selection of 6-10 players.

The player who finishes highest from the selected group will collect 50 points in this case. The 2nd 30 and so on. Ties mean 2nd and 3rd points may be shared.

Your job will be to judge the value of a player's quoted trading price ( say Montgomerie 12-15 ) and decide whether its a Buy (at 15), Sell (at 12) or if its a No-trade. Most often quotes will induce you to think No-trade and that is right most of the time if the spread setters has done their job properly.

Since the initial success of the Tournament Index the spread firms have decided to add the LeaderBoard Index.This spread represents how a golfer will perform in relation to all other players in the tournament and is not just a selection of players. The players within the Leaderboard Index correspond with those leading the tournament, so further players may be quoted as the tournament progresses. Points are allocated to the placings once more but with more places and higher points. e.g 1st=60, 2nd=40 etc.

Finishing Positions allow the player to punt whether a player will finish in a place higher or lower than the quote of say, Faldo 35-37. A buy here means that you wish Faldo to finish in 38th position or worse to make a profit (do badly). Conversely a sell means you want him to do well.

Match Bets come in two sorts, 18 Hole and 72 Hole. They are different in scoring.
A bet placed on a 72 Hole match is one that is multiplied by the number of strokes between the two players at the end of the tournament (special rules apply if one or both miss the cut). It is important when considering a bet to note the quote order. e.g. Faldo/Norman 0-2 means the result is considered in terms of how many strokes Faldo wins by. If he loses then its a negative number. If you fancy Faldo you must buy at 2 and sell at 0 if you prefer Norman.

On the other hand 18 Hole match bets are juiced up by awarding 10 points for a win plus 3 points per stroke. So winning by 2 points is a 16 point result. This time the quote might be Faldo/Norman 1-4 and so a buy at 4 results in a win of (16 - 4) points or 12.Football -
Market makers have devised all sorts or spurious markets concerned with football, most of which don't relate to the actual result. Clearly once you leave the bounds of score and result related indices anything is possible. We look at the main markets around today.

Supremacy / Superiority
This is the simplest football market of who scores the most goals. A Man Utd./Arsenal quote may go 1.1-1.3 which indicates Man U as favourite by 1.2 goals. If you think that on average they are bigger favourites than 1.3 goals then buy at 1.3. If you think this is a more even contest then you might want to sell at 1.1. If you buy at 1.3 and Man U win 4-3 then the make-up is 1 and you will have lost (1.3 - 1) x your bet.

Total Goals
This is simply a market on the total goals scored in match. So the quote may look like Man U-Arsenal 2.6-2.8. This is not to be confused with the above superiority. It means that if you think 3 or more goals is likely then you may want to buy at 2.8. If you do and 6 goals are scored (the make-up)then you win ( 6 - 2.8 ) x your bet.

Shirt numbers
This is the beginning of the more esoteric markets. It relates to the shirt numbers of the goal scorers. This clearly takes more research to know what are the numbers of the likely goal scorers and how often they score. This is a more volatile market than those previously discussed.

A quote may look like 30-32. This may seem high but if player 10 scores twice for one side and player 8 twice for the other then the make-up is 36. Great care must be taken here for sometimes a substitute may be wearing a "silly" number like 28. This is for serious gamblers.

Bookings
How many cards will the referee show during a match? Again this looks random but it may depend on a few very understandable factors which include the referee, the players, the conditions and any special situations they may make the match a "spicey" affair.

Most of the time points are scored as follows : 10 points for a yellow card (maximum one per player), 25 points for a red card. So a market maker may quote 35-38 and you would win with a sell at 35 if there were only one yellow and one red card.

All sorts of other markets have been made like; Corners (simple), Time of 1st Goal (simple), Total Goal Minutes (aggregate time of all goals scored in the game) and many others which we won't look at.Horse Racing -
Horse Racing is easily the biggeest sector in fixed odds bookmaking and bat swapping. There is also a thriving spread world but its not quite as well suited to the spread format as football or golf or cricket.

Individual Race Index / Points index
This is a simple Multi Player Index using the official placings to determine the make-up for each horse along the line of 1st=50pts, 2nd=30pts and so on. An odds-on favourite will be quoted arond 31-33 and its your job to judge the value offered.

Favourites
This is a Single Index market based solely on the horse that starts the race as favourite. Points are awarded like this ; Winning favourite = 25 points Second place favourite = 10 points Third place = 5 points.

Starting Prices (SPs) of Winning Horses
A more esoteric Single Index market. This is based on the sum of the starting prices of the winners at a whole race meeting. This can be blown up by a big price winner so the market setter usually has a limit of 50-1 for a single winner.

Winning Distances
This again is a Single Index market. It is based on the total winning margins at a race meeting. There are special rules to cover bizarre events like a huge distance winner. Its nomally a max of 15 lengths for the flat and 30 for National Hunt. Standard photo finish distance are translated into decimal parts of a length, such as; Short Head = 0.1 of a length Head = 0.2 of a length Neck = 0.3 of a length Half a length = 0.5 of a length 3/4 of a length = 0.75 of a length .
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Re: Spread Betting Guide



Good stuff there George. I'd suggest opening up this section for questions and answers if anyone has any?

For anyone new to the spread betting lark I've got to say that it's a lot easier than it may look at first glance (the concept, that is, I'm not saying it's easy to make money at it ) but you can get burned if you do something stupid, so feel free to chuck any questions in this section and someone will try to answer them.
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Re: Spread Betting Guide

Very interesting thread George you've got me interested , previously you recommended spread betting company but I cannot find the thread now, which one was it ?
Anyone else recommend or name the ones to stear clear of.
Presently looking for ones with the free bets for joining and checking out the small print

the ones I've found are SportingIndex , Cantor Spreadfair ,bethilo.

to get the free bets there are conditions

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What are the conditions at Spreadfair Traeth? Is the 50 quid free bet offer still on with them?
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Re: Spread Betting Guide

Following your post I checked and noticed this

If you open a Cantor Spreadfair account before the close of business on 31st May 2005 and place one bet of any size on any market, Cantor Spreadfair will credit £50 to your Cantor Spreadfair account.

thanks for the warning about the date onedunme

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Re: Spread Betting Guide

Hi Onedunme and trarth I have one account with www.sportingindex.com had the account for a year and have not had any problems so far.
Sportingindex do have offers for new accounts but this is subject to you placing bets risking at least £20 each time.
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Re: Spread Betting Guide

Here are the sports avaliable at the momentAmerican FootballAussie RulesBaseballBasketballBoxingCricketCricket (TV)Dog RacingEntertainmentGolfHorse Racing - IndicesHorse Racing - Other BetsMotor RacingRugby LeagueRugby UnionRugby Union (TV)Soccer - Intl (TV)SpeedwayTennis
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Re: Spread Betting Guide

On another board the Owner said sell the spread I think it was something like 20-22.
Even on the fixed handicap it was like 17/18...he said the Lions are going to struggle.
Good advice.
Could be money here...watch the Lions handicap...too high and it's a bet
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