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ODM - I was referring to their manager to be fair, though i didnt make it clear. Football is about achieving a result and winning trophies. I bet the Dutch fans would trade in some of their lovely football for 1 world cup wouldnt they. If their honest, Arsenal fans would also trade in some of the plaudits their team has received this year for a bit of silverware.

At the end of the day, football is about winning. Only losers say its about enjoyment. Who cares if you play pig ugly football if you have a winners medal around your neck.